Subject: Fuel Probes (again)
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 2/14/2008, 1:15 PM
To: AARotary Engine




       It's somewhat likely the noise is radiated as opposed to
   conducted to
       the sensor circuit.

       Do you have access to a handheld transceiver (with a "rubber ducky"
       antenna)?  While transmitting with it (on a locally inactive
   frequency),
       you may be able to identify a portion of the circuit that is
   vulnerable
       to the RF radiation.  If you don't find any part of the circuit
       responding to the handheld then grounding properly likely will
   improve
       things.

       There are instruments sold by Van's which are vulnerable to RF.  The
       only solutions found have been to shield the instrument (in your
   case,
       probably the CTV box) with metal - heavy foil may work, but a
   metal box
       might be better.  Or ignore it.  When the mic is un-keyed, do the
       readings return to normal immediately?


       Regards,

       Matt-

     Matt,
     I hadn't considered using a hand-held radio to trouble-shoot this
     problem.  I'll give that a try.  Once the mic is unkeyed, the readings
     will return to normal, but not immediately since they have a built in
     damping factor.

     For now, my most reliable method of tracking remaining fuel is
   with the
     Real World Solutions EM-2 engine monitor.  This unit calculates
   the fuel
     used based on the duty-cycle of the injectors.  I enter the number of
     gallons added when I refuel, and it counts down (or up if you
   wish) from
     there.  Even though it doesn't track fuel levels in each individual
     tank, it is still a pretty nice backup system.

     I also have a 7-gallon low fuel warning light for each tank,
   driven by a
     GEMS sensor.  Again, nice to have a backup system when the primary
   is a
     bit quirky.

     Mark

   Hi Mark,
   Matt may be on the right track with the handheld idea. If its possible
   align the antenna of the handheld as parallel to the installed cap. tube
   as you can then key the handheld while someone else watches the gage.
   Get as close as you can to get the greatest and quickest effect. If you
   get no response try aligning perpendicular to the tube and key the
   handheld again. It's possible that you were lucky (?) enough to get your
   installed tube and installed antenna exactly in parallel
   geometric planes and the radiated energy is the culprit.     Dave M




The alignment probably isn't all that critical.  Within a fairly large
range of angles of antenna polarization/orientation, energy transfer
will not fall off dramatically.  Being off axis even 45deg would only
cause a relatively small difference.  That's why it's okay that many
aircraft comm dipoles are tipped or even bent.  It's also why two
aircraft can talk to each other even if both are maneuvering - even
aerobatics.

In the case of the fuel sensor circuit, just the overall field strength
caused by the transmitting comm is the likely culprit.

Mark, is your comm radio working well?  Can people hear your
transmissions clearly (and at a distance)?  If not, the fuel sensors may
be fine and some portion of the comm feed or antenna may not be up to
snuff...


Matt-


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