Subject: Hydrogen power
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 2/18/2008, 12:13 PM
To: AARotary Engine



   Most of you have heard me mention hydrogen before as a good fuel
additive.
Most assumed I was speaking about pure atomic hydrogen. I wasn't. Within
the last year a few researchers have found the proper pulse rate and
ultrasonic frequency to use in an electrolizer that pushes the gas
output up
to 10X over what Faraday postulated was possible. This is done by not
reducing hydrogen and oxygen to its simple atomic state as in how a 'normal
electrolizer would work with a KOH catalizing solution, but rather taking
off both hydrogen and oxygen together in their natural stoimeteric ratio.

  Pulsed generators electro-lizers making 'Brown's gas' or H-O-H from water
are starting to sprout up around the world since Stanley Meyers' patent
expired last July and a few guys in Britian, USA, and Austrailia were, by
sharing info, able to reverse engineer his work and I believe even improve
it. I had communicated with Stanley about the time I first moved to Japan
in the early 80s and found he was a little guarded and lacked the proper
scientific terminology to explain his work. In short very 'out there'

In hindsight I am amazed at what he actually did accomplished in the late
70s using analog circuits. Today with powerful MOSFETS and feedback
circuits that can be modulated automatically around water's natural
resonance frequency at 42.8 kHz strange things start to happens. It is not
just the energy of the gas but some researchers think something is
happening
within the gas like microscopic ball lightening.

A few breakthroughs in the last few months, that have been freely shared on
the Internet, have enabled any home hobbyist, including everyone on this
newsletter to throw together a simple device and test the technology for
themselves. OK before you guys call in the UFOs check out these site and
devote a few hours to following the threads and a few more hours tinkering.

Now a few firms in Canada, Florida, Japan, Russia, England, and Taiwan are
already claiming they developed the technology. Pss shaw!!! Perhaps the
electrical circuit and the electrolyzer are slightly different but as for
patentable? We will see:) I am making one now so I'll let you know how it
goes.

How about rotary engines running on Brown gas? Why not? A few guys are
running ICE on 100% Brown's gas, with stainless steel valves and ceramic
coated parts. We can use stainless intakes and exhausts pipes and ceramic
coat the rotor and side walls as well. Like turbo compounding this idea
might be worth exploring and doing. I assume a certain amount of steam
might
contact the combustion chamber and rust out the engine. Many people are
already supplementing their gasoline engines cars with a simple
electrolyzer
making this gas and claiming 15% to 50% fuel mileage increases. BEWARE
though. Some of the designs look like Mickey Mouse designed them.

  I only brought this topic up because I have seen a lot of discussion
lately
on what are obvious to me different parts of the device. For example D.C.
PWM circuits, capacitors, and concentric tube fuel senders.

Start here and let me know what you think.
http://peswiki.com/energy/OS:Water_Fuel_Cell

Doug (back in Japan)

Haven't you heard? They found another 200 years supply of petroleum in the
Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, tar sands in addition to a 100 years supply
already being exploited in Alberta. As soon as crude goes over $120 a
barrel
it will become economically feasible to extract the crude in the US.
No beating gasoline for miles per cubic foot.

BTW I was getting worried Doug. I tried to contact Tom Weber to get your
brothers phone number to see if he got your body back from the wilds of
Himalayas.
Glad to see you made it out of there alive one more time :) Robin says;
"Thank heavens!
Paul can stop worrying now". "Paul worries about you Doug." Robin.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

Paul, and Doug,
My conjecture has always been that the development of the Renesis was
powered by
Mazda's hydrogen research. The fact that the rotary can provide a
WORKABLE no-overlap
cycle is a total boon to H2 operation since the propensity for intake
manifold backfire is
greatly reduced. Since P-port is always a higher HP option I really
believe the hydrogen
work generated the basis for the Renesis gas engine. Doug might check
with some of the factory contacts about it. I have always been curious.
Bill Jepson

Mazda wrote SAE of Japan paper C389/233 925011 on the hydrogen engine.
Nothing to do with the Renesis/RX8 engine. The intake porting is much
different. The higher pressure direct injection hydrogen gas port
opens much later in the intake cycle than the air port. Premix was
tried but did not work as well. There appear to be a few inconsistencies
in the English version of the paper. The power at best seems to be only
63% of the gasoline version and the BSFC only 90% as good as gasoline.
Of course the range is much worse.

Paul Lamar

       A guy in Sarasota claimed 100 Mi on 4 Oz of water. 3200 MPG.
       Beats the heck out of oil sands. Will forward CNN item on
       request only, Virg


Sure and I have a perpetual motion machine I'll sell you.
Of course he could always be talking about cold fusion E = mC^2 :)

Don't bother sending anything on this. CNN figures.

BTW people have been trying to get hydrogen to work for the last 30 years.
This paper was written to test a hydrogen powered fuel cell
powered golf cart. You would think hydrogen fuel would catch on by now.

Microprocessor-Based System for Roll-Down and Acceleration Tests
by D.K. Lynn, C.R. Derouin, and Paul Lamar
Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory
Published in IEEE Proceedings 29th Vehicular Technology Conference
(The technical details of the Lamar Instruments real time road test system as
applied to a hydrogen powered golf cart.) Arlington, Illinois, March 28-30, 1979


Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

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