> Does anybody know the provenance of this bolt? It looks
    aerospacey.
          > The letters on the head are B30US8 and the other edge  has a
    cursive
          > type 'A'
          > I was wondering about using them for mounting the motor.
          >
          > Chris Cosman
          >
          > Chris,
          > By the large radius under the head, it is most likely a
    structural
          > bolt.
          > If you have a spare, you could hardness test it.  Probably way
          > stronger than
          > you need.
          > Larry

          > Its a nickel alloy 718 bolt, 1/2-20 UNJF-3A thread,  with 220
    ksi min
          > tensile and 125 kis min shear strength (very strong,  well above
    grade
          > 8). If its used in high fatigue applications, it should be
    limited
    to
          > about 114 ksi.
          >
          > John Bell



         Thanks John.  Where did you get your info?

         Chris


    I agree that that's a high temperature Inconel 718 bolt.  I  have the
    spec in
    my office but I'm snowed in so far this morning.

    The issue is that it does you no good without the nut.  I'll  get the
    spec on
    those, too.

    -Ben


I recently replaced the bushings that isolate the steel tube motor  mount
from the aluminum fuselage on my 182.  I was sort of disturbed by  the by
the seemingly small size of the bolts used for the task.  There are a
total of four (I think) AN-4 size bolts holding 450+lbs of shaking and
shivering Continental to the front of the airplane.  Granted, the  mount
design takes advantage of good structural efficiency - a big firewall
allows good triangulation angles.

I don't know the purpose of using this kind of bolt for a motor  mount..
Unless you're on an aggressive, airframe-wide campaign to reduce  weight,
going to something exotic doesn't seem like it's going to be worth  much,
and likely just makes future service more annoying - should the bolt
ever get lost or damaged.  Even if the bolts are free, similar AN  bolts
of known provenance can be had for a reasonable price.

I guess if you're having to make up for another design compromise -  bad
mount geometry or having to run an exhaust stack too close to the  bolt -
exposing it to prolonged high-temperatures maybe it's a deal.


Regards,

Matt-

If it is bad mount design geometry the surrounding structure will  probably fail
before the bolt. Here are some bad MM ideas :)
-- 
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

Thank-you all for the great advice.  I inherited about 50 of these,
purchased from our local salvage joint, i.e. "a truck tipped over and
this was on it, we bid at auction on the whole trailer.".... etc.
They were bought for 50 cents a pound, so that was about 7 bucks for
50.  I think I'll keep them.

Chris

If they are really Inconel the price of these things is probably
close to $50 each.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

It's real easy to tell if these are B30s with a magnet.

They are generally used to bolt sections of a jet engine together and were
the subject of a huge counterfeiting scare in the early 80s.

Marinus B. (Ben) Bosma


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