Subject: SAE paper on turbo compounding
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 2/25/2008, 6:26 AM
To: AARotary Engine



>
> >> The more I think about a low conduction SS rotor the better
> it looks.
> >> I suspect
> >> a disproportionate amount of combustion heat is going into
> the rotor
> >> and thence into the oil raising the BSFC.
> > >
> > > Paul Lamar
> >
> > Make the new RX8 rotor also 7-8 CR, and we have a wonderful
> rotor for
> > turbo engine.
> > Cheers, Petri
> >
> > Good idea. We can sell them to the RX8 engine people with a lower
> > compression ratio for turbo charging. The current 10:1 RX8 rotors
> > are really unsuitable for turbo charging.
> > Paul Lamar
>
> Every RX8 tuner wants a pair of these. This could finance the whole
> project.
> Things to take care of first could be:
>
> High rotor face temp on WOT.
> Lower thermal conductivity translates to higher surface temp?
> We don't want this on high boost. Makes the knock situation
> worse on
> high power, also volumetric efficiency would suffer, offsetting
> our gain
> on IMEP somewhat. But how much - and should we care?
>
> On 75% cruise, this is likely to be just fine. Together with
> 250F/16psiglycol-water coolant, there could be clear gains on
> BSFC compared to
> baseline engine.
>
> But car tuners are mainly interested on how much peak power they could
> get, and that's the biggest market...
>
> Apex seal groove friction
> Boost stresses are higher due to 14-28 psi boost possible. Is SS
> up to
> task by itself?
> Cheers,
> Petri
>
> Once the patterns are made you could cast either in iron or SS.
> If there was enough meat you could machine the combustion chamber
> on an NC mill. Make heavier high CR SS for the RX8 car cruise
> market with
> a lower red line. Make lighter low CR iron for the turbo RX8 market.
>
> Paul Lamar

What would be the weight of a SS rotor?  Presently it is 9.2 pounds.

Marc J.
NexusMustang


http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2004/KarenSutherland.shtml

Metal      Steel, tool..........7.715
Metal     Wrought Iron.........7.75
Metal     Carbon Tool Steel....7.82
Metal     Steel, cold-drawn....7.83
Metal     Carbon Steel.........7.84
Metal     Steel, C1020, HR.....7.85
Metal     Pure Iron............7.86
Metal     Soft Steel (0.06% C).7.87
Metal     Stainless Steel, 304.8.03
Metal     Stainless 18Cr-8Ni...8.03
-- 

Very little difference.
It would all depend on the casting patterns
and how it was cast.
Modern RX8 rotors are centrifugally cast.


BTW does Andrea want to be on the list. I have
had no email from him?

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

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