Subject: S-Beam and Oil Pan for 13B
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 3/31/2008, 1:17 PM
To: AAA Put this in the To box



Jerry,

As I mentioned on Paul's newsletter, the engine is:

1987
13B
turbo block
NA, (normally aspirated-no turbo)
Application:  Long-Eze

But:
Has a 12A front plate.

The 12A front plate means that a MM pick-up point on the
oil pan is not necessary and not desired.

So I can not say that the oil pan Hayes sent to me is for the
average Turbo block.  It may not be-but it is supposed to fit
the block they built for me.

As I would like to purchase the S-beam and oil pan from you, perhaps
you can take the measurements from the pan I will send, along with  those
from Paul's newsletter.

So if you can send me your shipping address I will send the oil pan  I have.

Regards,
Joe Graham



Joe,  as long as the  oil pan matches  your engine I can take a
pattern off for the new pan.   You say it is supposed to fit your
block. Just curious, is there some reason you cannot check it out?

 Is the s-beam asymmetrical or  symmetrical? What is the distance
between Barry mount centers?  The Long Eze may be too narrow for a
full length beam which is 29" between centers and 31" overall.  If you
don't have this info, Paul can come up with it.   He could also
customize the pan shape for  your application if that were required.
It is a good idea to plan the entire engine mount so that we don't
find out later that the pan interferes with a motor mount tube or the
S-beam sticks through the side of the cowl.  :)

I understand you want just the s-beam and oil pan and not the complete
engine mount.   The price for the S-beam is $400.00 and the price for
the oil pan without rear bracket  is $350.00.  Regards,  Jerry

My address for shipping and mail is
3790 S. 600 W.
Albion, IN   46701

The Long-EZ firewall is only 16" wide. On this page are some screen
captures of drawings that are to scale. Center to center on the Schertz
beam is 14" on my drawing. Any wider and you will have funny bumps on
the sides of your cowl.
http://www.mickaircraft.com/LEZ13B/LEZ13B.htm

Perry


I always thought this space in the Long EZ was wasted. Hard to get to.
The landing loads must go through the structure and then into the landing
gear. Why not feed them direct and save the weight of the structure.
It also gives a better vertical spread to the firewall hard points
reducing the load on the said hard points. Joe Berki used a new
hard point along side the landing gear bolt which works fine
but it is not necessary. A 4130 U shaped bracket would work fine using
the same bolt.


Paul Lamar


I agree that would be best for new construction. I decided to draw up
more of a "bolt on" solution for all the EZs already flying.

I'm wondering why Joe Berki's engine is so far aft? Even with two
batteries in the nose, I would have to add a lot of lead in the nose to
for cg if mine was that far aft. Joe might have explained this before
but I forgot.

Perry

He has a Limo EZ which is longer I think.

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