> > Alberta pushing for more oilsands exports
> >
> >
> > Renata D'aliesio, The Ottawa Citizen
> >
> > Published: Wednesday, April 30, 2008
> >
> > CALGARY - The Alberta government is optimistic that an energy-hungry
> > United States will end up lifting a cap on imports of fuel mined from
> > the province's oilsands.
> >
> > And deputy premier Ron Stevens dismissed calls yesterday from American
> > environmentalists for an oilsands slowdown, saying the world needs
> > Alberta's oil more than ever.
> >
> > Mr. Stevens, who is in Washington on a five-day mission to market the
> > province's oilsands as secure and environmentally sustainable, cited
> > soaring gasoline prices as a consequence of inadequate oil production.
> >
> >
> > "I think Alberta has a wonderful story to tell in that sense," Mr.
> > Stevens told Canwest News Service after meetings with government and
> > business officials. "We are probably the only non-OPEC jurisdiction
that
> > can actually increase our production of oil over the foreseeable
future."
> >
> > But a coalition of environmental groups from the United States and
> > Canada are telling a different story about Alberta's oilsands.
> >
> > They contend it's one of the most destructive energy projects on the
> > planet, requiring a lot of water and producing three times more
> > greenhouse gas emissions than conventional oil.
> >
> > The groups took out an advertisement in a Capitol Hill newspaper
> > yesterday that shows an image of a maple leaf oozing oil from an
> > oilsands mining operation.
> >
> > "Canada's governments are allowing the boreal forest to be dug up to
> > bring America the world's dirtiest oil," the ad charges.
> >
> > Liz Barratt-Brown, a senior attorney with Washington-based Natural
> > Resources Defense Council, said yesterday the coalition is hoping to
> > influence how Americans and U.S. policy-makers view the oilsands.
> >
> > "We don't think we can ban it, but I think we can say, 'Look it
needs to
> > be cleaned up'."
> >
> > © The Ottawa Citizen 2008
> >
> > I did not know there was a U.S. cap on Alberta oil.
> > Will somebody explain why the refining process does not clean the
> > oil? If the US does not want it the Canadians can always build
> > a pipe line to the nearest sea port.
> >
> > Paul Lamar
> Paul, the (product) output of a refinery is basically independent of the
> input stock. what changes is the amount of processing and the
processes used
> to make the final product. I think the environmental groups are talking
> about the process of getting it out of the ground -- it is heavier,
> therefore takes more energy and water to get it into the pipeline.
> Bill Schertz
> KIS Cruiser #4045
> N343BS
I worked in Northern Alberta as an Observer on an oil exploration party
in 1948 & 1949. There are no redeeming ecological features in that
entire area. The place is nothing but a pure hell hole. They are
currently paying common labor $200,000 per year to live there. They
use steam to separate the oil from the sand. It is like a piece of
asphalt from a road. When they finish, it is a pretty white sand, and
is put back from where they got it, and the area is reclaimed. When
they finish it is a lot better than when they started. The steam is
recirculated, reheated and used again.
Our country is being systematically destroyed for the middle class. We
are being governed by "The Golden Rule". He who has the gold, rules.
Right where I now live, Superior MT, the environmental groups and The
Forest Service is pushing through a so called "The Cedar-Thom
Restoration Project". It is basically comprised of burning most of
65,000 acres of forestland, in two drainages. Logging it first is
prohibited, because it is not ecologically correct. The part that I
have the most objection to, is their procedure of not putting out small
fires, but letting them escalate into large uncontrollable forest
fires. They did this near Missoula last year and it developed into a
horrendous fire, one of the largest in the U.S.A. last year. It cost
the taxpayers millions and millions of dollars to try to contain it.
The "Forest Service" and the "Holier than Thou" groups thought it was a
great success and did high fives. The medical industry also thought it
was great as they treated all of the smoke inhalation victims.
Eugene L. Sandburg
Thanks Eugene. So that is what that white stuff is in the sat picture.
Maybe they could sell it for beach sand.
OK that is it for this subject. We want to stay focused
on the rotary.
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.
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