Subject: 801 engine mount status
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 6/17/2008, 3:20 PM
To: AAA Put this in the To box



Patrick,  your engine mount is tack welded together, looks  good    and is
out of the fixture.   Here are some photos.    I included two   of   the
digital protractor showing the fixture is  dead on.  I know I am
bragging  but it was a big deal here.    It made my day!!

Did I mention that you should install thread inserts in the  pan    bolt
 holes that are in the aluminum housings.  The irons should be     checked
but they are probably o.k.   Either HeliCoil or Time Serts are     fine.  It
is something to do  while waiting for the engine mount.

 More later,   Jerry

p.s.  Paul, I have published so many pictures of S-beam engine     mounts,
I don't know if  you want to publish more or not.   As  you     wish.   BTW,
 I think this engine mount  design is the the best yet.  It is a
pleasure to work on.


Looks great Jerry.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.



Jerry / Paul,

What size helicoils should we install?

Thanks,
--Kenny A.

six mm but I don't really think you are going to get into
the aluminum rotor housings. The cast iron end housings does not
need them.
-- 
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.



Paul,  that reply does not make sense.  I think you left a word  or  two
out:).  Anyway Kenny,  use inserts on the aluminum housings- the   irons
probably will not need them.  Jerry


I don't follow you Jerry. The S- beam is not wide enough to need
the rotor housings bolts. Only the end housing.

There is no load on the oil pan to speak of.

Here is one of your Zenith mount  pictures showing the bolts.

What am I missing?
-- 
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.


Kinda what I thought. Looks like all the S-beam bolts carry into the
iron end housing; am I wrong? Paul's point is that since none of them
are going into Al, there's little point in HeliCoils. Any oil pan
bolts not attaching through the S-beam are lightly loaded (force
evenly spread).


--Kenny A.

You are correct Kenny. Unless of course Jerry added a couple inches
to the width of the beam.

Paul Lamar

To be perfectly clear all the pan bolt holes that go into  aluminum
need inserts.  Pan bolt holes in iron do not need inserts.    Jerry

Why do you say that Jerry? The Mazda pan does not need or use them.
Plenty of people have removed the pan and replaced it without  installing
inserts in the rotor housings. Of course it won't hurt. I am just
curious about why you are so adamant about it.

Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

First, these bolts are notoriously easy to strip and to fix them the
engine has to be pulled which is a hugh amount of work that could be
avoided with a  little preventive maintenance.  Secondly,  several
people have actually stripped the threads and were not aware of it
until later  when oil leaks occurred and they tried to tighten the
bolts only to have them spin uselessly. Lastly,  as we place the strut
bracket on the back of the pan, it is critical to make sure the bolts
are able to carry their loads  These bolts go into the aluminum
accessory case.  I have been requiring inserts for more than a
year.           Jerry


OK Jerry I see your point on the rear (front on the car) cover.
I now agree :)
-- 
Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

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