Subject: Air flow thru a 6 ft fan
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 7/20/2008, 4:18 PM
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             Paul,
             This is kinda off subject due to it being on a chicken
   barn. So,
             you may want to contact me privately and tell me to
             take my fan and ......
             Either way, thanks.
             Dave D

      Paul,
      I am a bit confused. But here is the question(s) I have that
   really does
      relate to rotary exhaust, just without the heat and velocity.
      These large fans exhaust air out of the barns horizontally and
   the air
      currents / wind at that time carry the air and particulates
   across the
      ground (to aggrevate me).
      I am trying to give the company some info / facts that ducting that
      exhaust UP and away would allow neighbors and me to breath better.
      And possibly a baffle to restrict the particulates or at least
   some of
      them from going into the air.
      The fans presently are belled on the outside.  Which the company says
      allows the air to loose energy and more easily escape the confines of
      the duct.  (Hmm, really?)
      All this is much the same with the rotary exh, most often due to
      necessity, bend 90 degrees into an expanding volume and baffle /
      diverter plates to further reduce energy.
      Seems very similar.  Where do I get some info?
      If I don't get them to do something with the smell, you guys will not
      want to fly to the farm airstrip for a visit.  :(
      But, if I do get them to duct the air UP, it is recommended to
   hold your
      breath while in the pattern.
      Thanks,    Dave D


      Ducting the air up 90 degrees will help just a little bit as far as
      the stink
      of just the air is concerned. What will really help is the
      particulate content of the
      air, if any, will be removed. It will accumulate inside the 90 bend
      due to centrifugal force
      throwing  the particulate outwards towards the outside wall. This
      will have
      to be cleaned from time to time depending how much particulate is in
      the air.
      That alone should reduce the stink from just the particulate itself.
      As it is now that stuff is falling to the ground and accumulating
      and of course
      stinking in the process.

      Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.

   Paul,
   Well of course, just like the heat and energy hitting the outside wall
   of the bend just inches from the exhaust port opening.
   Any suggestion of what type of surface inside the tube?
   Maybe a removable panel acting as the filter, without restriction of air
   flow, too much?
   OR, directing the flow downward toward the ground.  Even a  substance to
   collect the particulate, keeping it there,  vs pumping it out or up into
   the air for all neighbors to breath.
   I just wonder if they have already tried some of this and didn't like
   the additional cost and work of cleaning the ducts and whatever type
   filtering method.   Probably frequently.
   Lets see, 20K sq ft, with 25K chickens per, times 30 barns and building
   more....lots of particulate stink.
   Maybe just time for me to move.  They're not going to change the
   location of the barns relative to surrounding farm houses, even tho we
   were here long before them.
   Big corporations doing as they like.

   Thanks so much Paul.  You've got me rolling now.
    Dave D
   ps. One last thing.  It always stinks worse away from the barns, at the
   surrounding farm homes, compared to being right around the barns.
   What's up with that? How come?
   Are we(neighbors) getting the greater dose of particulates due to
   slowing air velocity?  It's the worst in calm winds.

   The fixed volume of stink coming out of the barn is being diluted
   more by the higher winds.
   --
   Paul Lamar ...No rotor no motor.


Thanks very much guys for your help.
The simplist solution for me, and my neighbors would have been for
Sanderson Farms to build their barns farther away from human
habitation.  Something they can't get their brain around, due to making
$ getting in the way.

This aggrevates me so much because it takes me away from working on the
F1 Rocket and the RX7s.  Maybe I just need to use an O2 bottle and mask.
Dave D



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