In closing I would say it is hard to beat a turbo prop climb to altitude
performance, and its weight, and size to hp merits. Yes fuel burn is
less than stellar. The attraction is reliability and for people in a
hurry, in which saving 15 minutes on a three hour flight is a big
desire. If $$$$ are driving your attraction for having a 1000 hp engine
then I would venture to say you could buy two turbo prop engines for
the money it would be required to develop the various rotary systems at
your horsepower desires.
However if you have the burning desire and $$$ to develop an unique
engine that will absolutely smash any BSFC records, count me in as a
technical supporter. Many of the challenges you will face are similar
to ones people on this forum have solved in the past ten years.
Doug in Japan
Doug,
Just last weekend I spent a couple of hours talking with a turbo
mechanic,
he's building a RV9- very similar to the Vision. He was telling me about
a
turbo one man can hold with both hands which can be used in a light
aircraft, didn't mention hp but said one was used in an RV in the States,
but like you said fuel burn is double and the cost would be something
like
$100,000 - but he said the cost was coming down.
Personally I think a larger fuel capacity carrying plane would better
served
with a turbo prop as I believe cost of development would be comparable to
a
turbo prop installation , which only leave fuel burn the only remaining
factor.
One could run 3, 13B motors.
George (down under)
Turbine engines, be they turboprops or turbofans/jets are great for
commercial operations. I kind of doubt they'll ever be very good for
any sport planes except for the very rich. The fuel burn rate only
makes sense on a machine that's working for a living - where the
operating cost can be charged to a customer. And, as turbines get
smaller - to a power range appropriate for sport airplanes, their
specific fuel consumption gets markedly worse. This is so because of
thermodynamic realities - surface area to volume ratios. And because
of mechanical clearance effects - it's difficult to build a small
turbine that's very tight. And to be very efficient, turbines need
multiple stages to get the pressure ratios up.
Regards,
Matt-
Interesting that things only get worse as they get smaller.
George (down under)
All internal combustion engines have the same problem of volume to surface
area ratio. The simplest example is the area of the circle.
The circumference is pi times the dia. while the area is the radius squared.
Heat lost is proportional to the surface area. IMHO that is the flaw in the 16B.
That and the weight of the rotor to it's width ratio. Not to mention the
restricted area of a p-port due to the narrower rotor. I guess I could go on and
on :)
Paul Lamar
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