Doug,

There is absolutely a need for you to apologize.  Part of the reason I
joined this group is the freedom of expression and candor.  There are
quite a few good minds here and it is better to get the questions on
the ground and resolve them, than in the air and have significant
impact. . .

CerMet has not approached the experimental aircraft market.  Their
attitude to date is that there are bigger fish to fry and that market
concentration should be in the mass transit and commercial realm.  If
there was even a hint that CerMet espoused draining the oil, or any
coolant, and run the vehicle as a demonstration, I would not have
linked up with the organization.  I trust I do not have to explain
why.

Why do you feel that a 2,000 mile run to maximize the treatment is
suspect?  If it were otherwise, or as an instant observable effect,
the CerMet claims (and explanations of how the process works) would be
null and void and in my mind they would have discredited themselves.
The changes that are occurring are on a molecular level.   The process
and the length of time is consistent with what I expect.  Should be
some electron microscope photos of before and after treatment on the
website.

Mazda has one of the most aggressive and open engineering staffs
around.  While CerMet has reserved most of the large national accounts
for home office approach, I have obtained permission to contact Mazda
and see if there is any interest on their part.  To obtain an
affiliate agreement with the company I had to present a list of firms
I would/will contact and the time frame anticipated.  They reluctantly
agreed to let me contact and approach Mazda but it is a number of
months down the schedule.

Please take the time to read the literature posted in the website
<www.cermetlabs.com>  I believe that you will have to agree that this
is not the same approach that the firms listed by Andy have taken.
Ceramic technology has already been proven in the racing venue.  Can
it be applied to a functional mechanism and offer benefits of friction
reduction?  If so, it is not a stretch to proclaim that it increases
power, reduces fuel consumption, reduces emissions, and that there are
benefits relative to how long the mechanism lasts.

Doug, by-the-way, I like your idea about an electric pump for oil.
There was an outfit at the SEMA convention this last week that has
developed such a unit for automobiles.  I will have to dig through the
literature and see if I can find a name for you.  I am still grappling
to understand dry sump and wet sump systems and the advantages of the
dry sump.  Initially I was under the impression that the greater the
volume of oil in the system, the more efficient the cooling.
Apparently this is not the case.

Regards,
Gordon

Gordon I am not convinced by your prof.
Exactly which Polytechnic University are you talking about?
This one perhaps? http://www.poly.edu/

What was the professor's name that did the test?
What methods did he use?

In field test it is notoriously difficult to consistently measure MPG
with any reasonable resolution. Too many factors change over time. This
"product" has all the ear marks of a scam.

Paul Lamar

Gordon,

Actually I am sorry for opening my big mouth:)   Yes I did look through
the website. Luckily they aren't asking for investors or Paul would be
ranting:) In my job I am often called in to witness  new and incredible
energy saving ideas.  In short this is not the first or even second time
I have seen a product like this exposing nano tech or fine ceramic
healing properties to worn engine parts.  The time element of 2000 miles
or lets say about 40 hours would indicate the moving parts are providing
the polishing action. To do that these parts would have to be touching
yet not contact welding from the huge forces at work.  Or are we
expected to believe that like a jem polisher, the nano molecules in a
tumbler,  the mechanical device, are seeking out high points and
rounding them off?  Perhaps. More than likely the method is working like
a wax (parraffin in which the embedded particles fill in the low spots
and then get polished smooth.  The surface tension and melting
properties of certain waxes allow them to be both  semi solids and
liquid.  Nothing new here.  Light an candle and observe.

It is reasonable in such a case to ask what the sliding co effeciencts
are and point hardness of the embedded materials.To suggest that somehow
nano particles are attracted to any number of numerous alloys found in
mechanical devices and then rearranges their molecule structure is going
a bit far. The 'science' on the  website also infers the substance has
intelligence and is self correcting.  Sounds to good to be true.

Doug in Japan