Hi,
Finally, got the rotor in the mail. Thanks to Paul. (Is it RX8 rotor? I
remember that You mentioned that pocket and faces are machined. On this one
pockets a left as cast.)
I agree totally with what Paul and Rob are suggesting.
Next steps:
1) Disassemble it.
2) Cut in two halves.
3) Scan it.
4) Create a valid 3D model of standard Mazda rotor.
Here I will need help from Rob.
Rob, as I understand You've got all the math to model the rotor faces. If I
remember correctly You're working with Pro/E. Is it possible that You model
outer geometry (faces) and send me the file (native Pro/E or any common -
Parasolid, Step or IGES). Modeling the faces out of scan data is not the best
idea IMHO.
5) As Rob mentioned "Cast Ti has anywhere
from a 1/2 to a 1/3 less thermal conductivity versus cast irons. 40
percent less density, half the expansion rate, double to triple the
tensile strength but anywhere from equal to half the modulus of
elasticity. If i were just looking at it, without changing any
dimension(based on modulus vs. tensile) it would be about 40 percent of
the weight of the rotor."
If I remember it right Mazda rotor is made out of ductile iron. Its properties:
Elastic Modulus 120000 N/mm^2
Poissons Ratio 0.31
Shear Modulus 77000 N/mm^2
Thermal Expansion Coefficient 1.1e-005
Density 0.0071 g/mm^3
Thermal Conductivity 75 W/m K
Specific Heat 450 J/kg K
Tensile Strength 861.695 N/mm^2
Yield Strength 551.485 N/mm^2
Now for the Ti cast rotor I'm planning to use VT20L which was designed for
extended work at 500C.
Fe C Si Mo V N Al Zr O H
<0.3 <0.1 <0.15 2 2.5 <0.05 6 2 <0.15 <0.012
Elastic modulus 123000 N/mm^2
Poisson's ratio 0.33
Shear modulus 46000 N/mm^2
Thermal expansion coefficient 9e-006
Mass density 0.00465 g/mm^3
Thermal conductivity 7.8 W/m K
Specific heat 500 J/kg K
Tensile strength 1160 N/mm^2
Compressive strength 1170 N/mm^2
Yield strength 1070 N/mm^2
Hardening factor (0.0-1.0; 0.0=isotropic; 1.0=kinematic) 8.5e-007 N/mm^2
Advantages that we may have:
Strength = 134.6%
E modulus = ~ 100%
Density = 65.5%
Thermal conductivity = 10.4%
Thermal expansion = 82%
More than that at high temperatures mech. prop. advantages will be higher.
Anyway as Bob mentioned we can safely assume 30% weight reduction of rotor
assembly. I agree with Rob that revving the engine 20000RPM may cause all sorts
of problems. But revving the 3 rotor engine to 12 - 13,000 RPM sounds realistic
to me.
Now, what's the current thinking about feasible price for a 7 - 6.5lb Titanium
rotor? We're not talking about mass production but high power applications.
Thank You
Ted
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