> > Boys,
> > This sounds like someones (Max/Berni) wet dream. No
> refueling??? No
> > testing??? Three races per engine??? F1 is doomed.
> >
> > http://www.autoweek.com/article/20081212/FREE/812129990
> >
> > Ron Grable
> >
> > The worst part about it is this silly 2009 wing Formula 1 rear
> wing
> > (2nd pic).
> > My guess is for every pound of down force you get one pound of
> > drag. The least thing the FIA could do is make it optional as some
> > track times will be faster without it.
> >
> > If they want to reduce turbulence so drivers can pass they
> > are going to have to reduce all sources of down force. Down force
> > or lift for that matter causes an increase in turbulence no matter
> > how it is generated. The angle of the belly pan diffuser can
> be limited
> > to limit down force from that source. There will always be some
> > turbulence behind the car no matter what. The best way to have
> passing> is let the engineers innovate.
> >
> > The best way to cut fuel burn is use a high mounted wing as
> > wide as the car. In other words higher aspect ratio rather than
> > a lower aspect ratio as this wing is. Same on the front wing.
> This
> > picture (1st pic) is of a Formula A or Formula 5000 car that
> Ron
> > Grable drove equipped with a high mounted front wing. If it is
> too
> > high it raises the CG and cuts low speed grip. If you want to
> reduce
> > downforce from a wing use an area limit such as two square feet.
> >
> > Car racing is just that. >>>CAR<<< racing!! It is
> everything from the
> > car design through the driver. If you turn it into a spec
> class like
> > NASCAR it is no longer car racing. It is bumper cars or a
> driver
> > circus and a waste of good gasoline. Count me out.
> >
> > Paul Lamar
>
> With Honda abruptly pulling out of Formula 1 last week, I will
> not be
> surprised if others ignore the Axiom "Win on Sunday, Sales on Monday"
> -dave
>
> Quote:

*Longer term

*-- The FIA and the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) will study the
possibility of an entirely new power train for 2013 based on energy
efficiency (obtaining more work from less energy consumed).

-- Rules will be framed to ensure that research and development of such
a power train would make a real contribution to energy-efficient road
transport.

Unquote:

That is the good part. But no refueling?

Marc Joseph

Hello !

Next year, 2009, there will be no F1 Grand Prix in my country (France),
and it is very likely that there will be non the following years...
(And looking at the evolution of F1 rules, I cannot figure out if it's
good or a bad news...)

More race per engine could perhaps lead to little less powerful, but
also technical developments of more reliable engine... for everybody.

But I don't understand the interest of the "No refueling" :
Wouldn't be more sensible to reduce the authorized fuel amount for one
race, to specify this quantity as a mass - not a volume - to avoid
nonsense but expensive refrigeration systems - to about 90 kg (200lbs),
or even less, and let the maximum possible freedom to engineers ?

Philippe

They are thinking about turbo compound for 2013 but I don't know why
they are waiting that long.

Paul Lamar