Subject: New way to turbo compound
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 12/30/2008, 11:33 AM
To: AAA Put this in the To box


> This is an interesting idea. I wonder what the losses are
> for the hydraulic pump and swash plate hydraulic motor?
> I assume the hydraulic motor is variable speed which would allow
> a lot of flexibility between the power of the turbine
> and the speed of the engine.
>
> For some strange reason no mention of it is made on their website.
> http://www.woodward.com/
> This is an old established company with a lot of capabilities.
>
> I have one of their prop governors on my C182.
>
> Paul Lamar

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/11/24/top-of-the-morning-woodward-governor.aspx?terms=wgov&vstest=search_042607_linkdefault
<http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/11/24/top-of-the-morning-woodward-governor.aspx?terms=wgov&vstest=search_042607_linkdefault>

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-- Jeffrey John Martin

Great site.

Thanks.

Paul Lamar

Paul,
Didn't we talk about the use of a hydraulic motor turbo-compound around
a year ago? I guess everything old is new again! At least the discussion
was about a possible method of TC. The real question is how efficient
the system is.
Bill Jepson

Could be. I tried calling the company today but they are on vacation
to the 4th. I think the losses will be too great. The weight and cost
will be high as swash plate hyd motors are not cheap.

Paul Lamar

Paul,
My thoughts were IIRC that the hydraulic motors we have been seeing to
this point have been for low-speed land vechicles, and therefore made
with little reguard for weight. Somebody posted a new Honda scooter that
had a full automatic transmission as a possibility for a source of a
light-weight Hyd. motor. that is a good idea provided the pump can be
light as well.

Bill Jepson

   SYSTEM OVERVIEW
   In a very simplified description, the Hondamatic hydraulic transmission uses the engine to drive a hydraulic pump that forces hydraulic fluid through sequential pistons. On the other side of these pistons, the pressurized fluid enters a second set of pistons that push against an angled plate (called a swash plate). Because the cylinder body holding the pistons is splined to the output shaft, the pressure exerted on the swash plate causes the cylinder body to rotate. When the angle of the hydraulic motor swash plate is adjusted, the cylinder body (and, therefore, the output shaft) rotates faster or slower, resulting in higher or lower output drive ratios. When either of the two automatic transmission modes (D1-Maximum Performance or D2-Maximum Torque) is selected, the Engine Control Unit (ECU) continuously monitors input from six sensors to position the motor-side swash plate at the optimal ratio. Using the ESP mode, the ECU instructs the control motor to move the hydraulic motor plate to preset angles to simulate specific gear selection.

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