Subject: 20b Fuel Rail
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 7/18/2009, 4:27 AM
To: AAA Put this in the To box


 Paul,

 I measured the 2-pack injectors on the primary fuel rail when I got home
 tonight, Best I can tell, it is 1.0" center to center.

 Mark S.


 Well I guess it is a die cast housing which might be needed
 to feed the injectors. That makes it hard to make one with
 an ordinary mill. Here are some old dwgs and pictures of the
 fat injector holder. I made this one (one inch center to center)
  on my my cheap Chinese mill. Took lots of time.

 Paul Lamar


 Paul,

 Attached is a pic of the part of the fuel rail that I would like to cut
off
 and use.  That may turn out to be a non-option, depending on whether or
not
 I can find a spare fuel rail.

 If push comes to shove, I can always buy some Siemens injectors and use
 your
 injector blocks.  Or, go with some of the sdsefi.com injector holders and
 use my old injectors.

 Mark


 Those $40 sdsefi injector holders are pretty nice. Looks like you plumb
 each one separately. Will the fat one fit your injectors? It looks
 like a top feed. Any idea what the Kinsler injector holders cost?

 Do you have access to a mill? I have an idea that might work for you.

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 The low cost trick is to buy 3 by 1 and 1/2 inch bar stock from
 McMaster so you don't have to do any milling on the outside.
 Have them cut it to about 4 inche long blocks.
 The hard part is setting it up in the mill at 30 degrees
 and using a fly cutter to cut the radius for the 2 inch tube.
 Everything else is straight forward drilling.

 The three blocks can be welded together with 1/2 inch OD
 3/8 ID aluminum tubing to form the fuel rail.  You may have
 to drill 1/2 inch rod unless you can find tubing that size.
 You could also bond it together with JB Weld like Tracy does :)

 Measure that injector for me and I will put some dimensions
 on the hole positions.


 Paul Lamar

Paul,

Yes, the sdsefi holdders are nice.  They don't appear to work with the side
feed injectors, but I also have 6 of the normal 13b/20b 550cc injectors
that
I could use.

Let me run this by my machinist and I'll get back with you.

Mark

BTw Mark if you use those side feed injectors and go to all the
trouble to making a custom holder and fuel rail you could pay
the piper down the road if one fails. I would not be a bit surprised
if Mazda charged well over $100 while just about any other
injector can be had for $50.

Paul Lamar




Good point... But I'm already running 3 of them in my current engine.
Besides, Bob Mears gives great discounts.  ;-)

Mark

Your up early and I am up late :)

Only three? They must be throttle body injectors. That means
they are used in something else.

Paul Lamar
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