Subject: Adapter/beam/plate
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 9/16/2009, 4:53 PM
To: AAA Put this in the To box


Paul


got the files  and have the material here...I have enough to make at
least 8 plates.I will  make 1 for inspection, then if you want
more......

the pressure caps  can be done as well.. get the geom and advise  on
material....

jeff

OK do we have any other buyers? Speak up  now.

Paul Lamar


Paul
 can you publish the list of those that spoke up so we can verify you
have us down... Count me in.

Mike C.

I don't have a list.
People should contact Jeff directly.

jeff doddridge <4starr@cox.net

Paul Lamar


Paul, I was reflecting on the beam plate design, in it's present
configuration. I notice that the Barry cups are in essence butt
welded to the ends of the beam. Given that the welding process
destroys the heat-treat properties of the aluminum in the heat
afected zone, is this method of attachment strong enough to hold
the engine and absorb all of the forces incurred? I'm not an
engineer, but I do understand the welding process, so please
don't take offense. I'm just posing a question.
C. Smith

Absolutely.

If you take a 6.5 G hard landing drop in and assume the engine
weighs 300
pounds the shear force on the welds is 2000 pounds.
Lets assume for the moment all force is applied to only
one cup. The one closest to the engine.

If the total weld area taking both sides of the cup is .25 inch by
3 inch long
that is an area of .75 inch. .125" per side.  Therefor the stress
is 2000 / .75
or 2,666 psi. The  tig weld tensile strength is given in this
referencea about 25,000 psi so we have a factor of safety of 10.

http://www.aps.anl.gov/Science/Publications/lsnotes/ls254/ls254.html

Paul Lamar

Which is a HUGE under estimate. We are allowed to use 75Ksi in all
our welds here at my day job. [in 44w plate] W/ 7018 [or equal] welding materials.
[We're talking MIG or Stick however.. I'm not sure about tig]

Fwiw

Jarrett

Would/could you please do an FEA with 700 ft pounds of torque combined
with 1800 pounds of down force :)

Like Bob White crash. Full power full stall drop in crash landing.

Paul Lamar

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