Hard drive 2 does not work

 I used GParted to format the 2nd drive and and it shows up
 in KDisk and GParted. see the attached screen shots.


  It also shows up on the desktop but I am unable to copy files
  to it.

  Why?

  Paul

 Another tidbit of info

 If I plug in a different type of USB stick in Ubuntu 9 it shows up on
 the
 desktop as mounted
 but apparently it is not really mounted as I cannot copy files from that
 either.

 If the stick is plugged in before I boot up it works fine.

 Is this a bug in Ubuntu 9? I have been doing that for years in Fedora 8

 Paul Lamar

 A file system issue? USB sticks are normally formated with FAT, but
 EXT is
 native to Linux.

 Mark Wrathall

 True but it works fine on Fedora 8
 Did you get to Aero?


 Paul Lamar

Hi Paul;
There were a bunch of usb automount issues with Kubuntu 9.04 that were
not present in previous versions.
I upgraded one box briefly a long time ago.
A quick search on the Kubuntu forums for "usb automount" will likely
solve your problem.
It is probably "udev rule" or (the new KDE 4) interface related.

You can also try to manually "safely remove/re-open" the usb stick from
a file manager or mount/unmount from a terminal command line.

Cheers
Cary

Thanks Cary.
I hate sudo! Sometimes it won't let you do something and it won't
tell you why not. I like to be root all the time and then I can do what
ever I want to do. sudo is the worst kind of big brother communist control
as opposed to root laissez-faire capitalism :) It is an insult to ones
intelligence.

I think that may have been my problem copying stuff to the 2nd hard drive
in 9.04. I will say there are far more applications for Unbuntu 9.04 as they
have integrated much of the Kstuff with the Gnome stuff. Fedora is not
getting
the same amount of support.

Paul Lamar


Paul,
Side note: Here is a free book from Google: 1922 edition of the
"American Machinist Gear Book",
"http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/09/classic_gear_design_text_free_on_go.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890"

'gparted' is very low level and does not offer the user much help. I
like to use 'fdisk', it is more user friendly.

Running as root is dangerous. It allows me to screw up royally with a
simple typo in a command line. been there...
I don't use sudo on my personal computers. I just 'su -' and become
root. Or, if you must use sudo, try 'sudo /bin/su -' to su and become
root.

RedHat had a bunch of automount problems back about FC3 or FC4. I am
on FC10, and a few problems have popped up in the last few months. My
LCD monitor has a USB hub. I like to turn it off when I go home, but
leave the computer on so I can hop through it to work from home. The
hub gets turned off and on with the monitor. The hub take a bit of
time to be found again. If the hub is not auto sensed/configured then
nothing plugged into it is seen.

The Fedora project philosophy
("http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations") limits the delivery and
functionality of applications. RedHat created Fedora about the time
they went public. They do not deliver anything that is encumbered by
patent or copyright. That is why you can't play MP3 encoded music on
Fedora without adding apps from third party repositories.
A few things that Fedora does not deliver:
NVidia's binary video driver
MPEG and other codecs
Adobe's PDF reader
KDE, based on QT widgets, use to be restricted on distribution by the
QT license. The QT license is basically why GNOME was adopted and
probably why it was started.
A few years back th GD graphics libraries took GIF capabilities out
because Compuserver started enforcing patent on it. 2004 they put it
back in. PNG is better anyway.

You can get most of this stuff for RedHat from a third party
repository. There use to be a few I like and they merged. RPM Fusion
is a merger of Dribble, Freshrpms, and Livna. You install one package
and it sets up the repository to get the packages you want.

RPM Fusion still doesn't deliver stuff that is illegal that others
might, like deCSS the code to decrypt DVDs. I don't think you can
watch most USA DVDs on Linux without it or a binary only program.
Ubuntu has an installer for deCSS, but you have to go find the library
(the thing that gets installed) from an unspecified server in some
country that doesn't care.

Blake