When I borrowed it, towed it to Sun & Fun and ran it up Dave did
ask me tolimit themanifold pressure to 45 inches of HG. Try
boosting your typical Lycomingto 45 inches ofHG and you will
be killed by the shrapnel :) Dave never really gave up onit. He
just ran out of energy to work on it. I have a lot more
pictures. You might beable to get itSteve as you have plenty
of room in your hangar. I think I can get it tocool. Maybe
not 400 MPH but well over 300.
Here is the last address I have for Dave. At the least it should
go in theEAA museum.
Dave Garber
935 Archer Grove Rd.
Athens GA. 30607
Doug Fir knew him too.
Paul Lamar
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Paul, that is an interesting idea. I'm insane to even consider it
with everything else going on.
We'll need to find out if Dave's estate have the parts in good
condition...complete fuselage skins,wings, etc.
If you will help with the engineering and will do the outreach to
the estate and they will be willing, I would be willing to consider
establishing
a rotary engine foundation or other volunteer-based, non-profit
for the purposes of attempting to get the aircraft reengined and
flying. It would be with the expressed intent that it eventually
reside in the EAA museum.
In this regard, let's discuss using using two of our three rotor
engine NA peripheral port engines at least in the initial test
phase. With the three rotor engines, we'll need to evaluate how to
reduce weight everywhere we can. Also look at swapping out those
heavy metal C/S props for ligher Hartzel composite CS or other.
Steve Beckham
I'll volunteer my time and travel expenses if somebody can loan us
a pickup truck. I think it is stored in a trailer. I borrowed
Dave's SUV the last time. Perhaps his widow would loan it out
again. It may mean two trips across the US which I don't mind.
Perhaps the Mcminnville Spruce Goose museum would be interested
once we are done playing with it. The engines are in good shape. I
would not change them. Dave spent big bucks on the accessory
drives. Dave had them over hauled recently. The wood spars need
inspection.
Paul Lamar
Paul,
Others
Yes Dave was a great guy and I only knew him for four years but he
was very helpful and gracious in providing me with my Bell 47 parts
for a very reasonable price.
Dave told me he did fly the plane about eight hours but never over
engine rpm of 5500, because of the inferior bearings in the stock
Bell 47. Paul might have run it faster for a few seconds at Sun and
Fun:) Up until he had a stroke a few years ago he was still hoping
to rebuilt the DG-1 and do some speed trials.I was helping to
organize the project, much to his wife's dismay.
The plane is damaged though as something fell on it while it was
in the hangar. I believe he wanted to make new wings and it definitely
needed a new canopy. The design is not without warts and there
are several things he told me he would like to change. I came up
with a few myself mainly in the wing attachment method and the PSRU
internals design. Quite frankly I am surprised the PSRU didn't
seize. Some of the roller bearings in the Bell box had flat spots
on them. He had a good oiling system in it. Dave was especially
proud of the tail and rudder and remarked that because it extended
downwards as well it had a lot of authority.
Dave also let me take of lot of pictures of his Fuji which was
dressed out Japanese colors and pointed out the landing gear
mechanism for my benefit. From my understanding the Fuji sat for
awhile.I don't know what happened on his last flight but a year
ago I also had an engine lose power on takeoff despite sumping the
wing tanks well
(draining them completely actually) and sumping the front. Ground
ran it for almost 20 mins as well. But a little water stayed in
the carb bowl and of course fuel floats on water. Depending on the
climb out angle the water is sucked into the carb and the engine
sputters. It doesn't die it just doesn't make enough power to
sustain flight. Luckily I was prepared for it and had a lot of
runway ahead of me to land again.After several more engine
starts and sputters it ran fine. The local A&P said it is a
common problem with planes that sit for awhile.
Contrary to belief Dave never gave up on the idea of seeing it
race and was quite upset at the Reno crowd. He also licked the
cooling problem showing me some custom radiators he had with angled
baffles. He offered to sell me the plane or the engines several
times and as much as I would have like to, I feel like the rest of
you it would be a shame to part it out. I wanted Dave to see his
dream come true, fly, and kick the pants out of the competition or
at least make some records. After the stroke he was agreeable to
having some else fly it. Now the wiser choice would be to restore
it to museum quality. It needs some work, paint, and I would guess
at least a thousand people/hours to accomplish that.
We are missing out on the company of a great gentlemen. I can
contact his wife about this matter but for the time being I think
we ought to respect her space and give her time to coup.Losing Dave
in a flight accident was one of her biggest fears and she made that
abundantly clear to me when I sat in her kitchen years ago.
Doug in Japan
You can always get silicon nitride rollers for the pinion gears.
They will work at twice the RPM.
Paul Lamar
Hi,
How did they start these engines? It is evident from the photos
that there is no flex plate. I take it that required some one to
flip the prop to start. Dale Davies
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As I recall they had 24 volt aircraft starters/genrators built into
the geared accessory sections. I think Jim Mederer designed the
accessory sections. All I had to do was push the start button.
Paul Lamar
Hi Paul,
Thankyou for the answer. This was not a low cost install by any means,
with the Bell redrives and the accessory drive gear cases; times two.
Dale Davies
Dale,
I thing Dave told me he bought about three Bell 47 drives for $300 a
piece way back when.
Now they are rare and helicopter guys of course want to hang on to them.
I would love to have an accessory plate like that. I believe Dave had
the starter and two mags going into them.
I wonder if it was cast or milled?
Doug in Japan
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