Subject: Twin project
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 4/5/2010, 11:35 PM
To: AAA Put this in the To box


 Paul

 I found all format to import with Alibre let me know which format i should
 order to match Alibre and Rino

 Import data from other CAD systems
 Importing STEP data
 Importing IGES data
 Importing SAT data
 Importing DXF/DWG data
 Import Analysis and Reporting

 Alibre Design's interoperability solution provides flexibility in
importing
 data created in other CAD packages. Alibre Design supports the import of

 3D data in STEP, SAT and IGES formats

 2D data in DXF and DWG formats.

 Data may be imported into Alibre Design from the Home window or from open
 workspaces.

 From the Filemenu, select Import.

 In the Import File dialog, select the file to import. The Import File
Options
 dialog appears.


 Determining which import options to select depends primarily on the format
of
 the file to be imported and its intended use in Alibre Design.


 Importing STEP Data

 Most STEP data consists of solid model data. Typically, the Stitch to
 Solidoption should be selected for STEP data import.

 Depending on the originating CAD application, exporting STEP data could
 result in varying levels of inaccuracy. If problems are encountered, the
 Healoption may also be used to improve import success as well as improve
the
 quality of the model in Alibre Design.

 The Make Tolerantoption may be used in situations where known inaccuracies
 occur to enhance the ability to perform modeling operations on the
imported
 file.

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 Importing IGES Data

 Most IGES data consists of surface data. Selecting import options for IGES
 files depends heavily on the intended use of the data in Alibre Design
after
 import.

 The Unstitch to Standalone Faces option can be selected if the primary use
of
 the file will involve only visualization in Alibre Design. Measurements
may
 still be taken on the model, but modeling operations may be unsuccessful.

 The Stitch to Solid option should be used if modeling operations will be
 performed on the file. The Heal and Make Tolerantoptions may enhance the
 quality of the imported model and the ability to modify the model through
 modeling operations.

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 Importing SAT Data

 SAT Data could consist of both solid data as well as surface data.
 Consequently, selecting import options for SAT files depends heavily on
the
 intended use of the data in Alibre Design after import.

 Typically, the Convert to Solid Modeloption should be selected for import.
 The Healoption may be used to improve import success for files containing
 known inaccuracies. The Make Tolerantoption may also enhance the ability
to
 modify the imported file.

 For all three formats (STEP, IGES, SAT), the Discard Non-Solid Facesoption
 may be used to import files that have irregular surfaces associated with
the
 model. For example, many models are created using various types of
reference
 geometry. The Discard Non-Solid Facesoption will essentially remove
non-solid
 faces or reference geometry on import.

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 Importing DXF/DWG Data

 The Import Options are not necessary in importing 2D data.

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 Import Analysis and Reporting

 Alibre Design provides import analysis and reporting tools as aids in
 importing data.

 The Alibre Design Import Advisoranalyzes the success of the import,
reports
 any import problems, checks the part for inaccuracies, and recommends
 settings to use to improve the import success. A Healing Analysis report
is
 also included if the Healing option is selected.

 Check Part, Healing Analysis, Conversion Logcan be used independently from
 the Import Advisor.

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 For detailed information on importing data into Alibre Design, please
refer
 to the Importing and Exporting section of Alibre Design Help

 Jean Prudhomme

 Rhino can import iges and step or stp.

 Paul Lamar from Germany

 OK PAUL I PURCHASE THE DESIGN AND HE WILL SHIP ON 3 FORMATS,*3DM ,OBJ,DXF

 Jean Prudhomme

 3dm is native Rhino. That is great.
 I wont be able to work on it until I get back
 as I don't have a windows computer with me.

 I am not completely sure but I think 5/8 scale might be better
 than 3/4 scale. I'll have to work out these details.

 George Grimes is up to speed on Rhino so I will send him the .3dm
 and see what he comes up with at 5/8 scale. Things like wheel
 diameter, prop diameter and cabin height are critical when
 scaling.


 Paul Lamar from Germany


i SHOULD RECEIVED IT IN FEW DAYS FROM ALASKA

Jean Prudhomme

Probably too big to email so you may have to mail a copy
on DVD to George

Paul Lamar from Germany




Paul and Jean, Scaling the 3Dm  surface model is a single command operation
if you are scaling  to the same scale.I looked up a few Piaggio designs and
found the listed airfoil as a NACA 23012 at the root and a 4412 at the tip
on both the main wing and the stabilizer and a NACA M-12 on their P7
series.  You may want to leave the wing scaled down less than the fusaloge.
        Hopefully the DXF files will have the airfoil elements plotted with
the flap amd aleiron % of chord, if not the ordinates can be downloaded. I
search      ae.illinois.edu canard airfoils     and use the reverse
directory to find out what is used on airframes of similar designs, then the
main list for the ordinates.  Personally I like the Harry Riblett airfoils
on the main wing, and Rontz on the canard.
        Have you got any idea what prop clearance you need at the rotation
point on take off.  I am thinking at the stall angle of attack of the
canard  something like 8" clearance.  It is not as much angle as it seems
since the incidece on the canard has 3 degrees more incidence  The full size
version has five blade props so you will likely need a minimum of three
blades with one RH and one LH to get the disk diameter scaled down to a
workable size.
       We will need to know if the CNC foam cutting shop wants the airframe
sliced into workable size pieces or would want it as a complete solid that
he can devide up at his location.  As I remember the depth of the machine
accomodates 20" deep sections and the width and length are something like 5
feet by 20 feet
         When you start looking for Glass cloth you might want to call
Steve Thayer at  thayercraft.com in High Point NC.  I get 73 inch wide from
him which reduces the number of seams. He has 3 million yards on hand and
probably that much more lost to the inventory system. They ride bicycles to
check stock quantities. He is building a Cozy and flies a Cessna 175

george grimes