Subject: Sealplate leak
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 6/7/2010, 7:35 PM
To: AAA Put this in the To box



 Well, nothing seems to work.  I discussed O rings between the sealplate
and
 the housing with a mechanical designer at work. He did not think it would
 work.  The holes drilled in the top are on a V edge which complicates the
 sealing.  Those holes should be on a flat section.  Even then an O ring is
 not the optimum solution.  I will try again with a different combination
and
 report back.  What is the disadvantage of just sealing off where the tubes
 are with JB weld?  Even if you test it with air, after a couple of runs on
 the motor it could leak.  Alternative engines are not a great confidence
 builder don't want to worry about leaks too.
 Joe Berki
 Limo EZ

 Take it apart and take some more pictures.
 I'll see what I can come up with.

 One way is sand off some of the anodize on the inner cover
 and weld on a short section of 2 inch .065 wall alloy
 tube. Do away with the thick inner flange.

 Then connect the two with hose and hose clamps.

 That way you can use the stock 1/4-20 bolts.
 and the stock seal plate set up.

 Paul Lamar


 The story continues as I have tried numerous combinations to get the seal
 plates sealed.

 I am attempting another try as I am writing this.  I have no idea where it
 is leaking.  I re designed the bracket to the slide throttle so I could
 incorporate an O ring seal from the tube to the slide throttle.

 It seems that the soap bubble method does not always give an indication of
 leakage but the pressure gauge indicates drop in pressure.

 The latest attempt involved removal of the RTV and JB weld from the
outside
 after the seal plate was removed and spraying the silicone conformal coat
on
 first.  I need to get a fresh tube of red RTV to rule out that the stuff I
 was using was bad.  I did manage to coat the inside between the screw
holes
 and the tube with JB weld but did not fill the entire cavity.

 I keep you posted

 Joe Berki
 Limo EZ

 I don't see any rubber inner tubes on those side pressure test plates.
 Are you sure the leak is not there? Don't use bolts to hold
 them on. Use large C clamps. The bolts are just another place
 to have leaks. Also use 1/2 inch thick plate. That looks like
 3/8th. Not stiff enough for 50 psi.

 I think you need to start over.
 Don't use the same bolts and spacers to hold down the sealing
 block for the slide throttle flange. Use different bolts
 taped into the sealing plate if necessary or do as I suggest
 and weld the inner cover of the slide throttle to short aluminum tubes
 and use hose and hose clamps to connect the slide throttle to the
 engine.

 The silicone conformal coating is for the threads on the 1/4 28
 bolts only. JB Weld will not stick to aluminum unless the
 conversion kit is used and the instructions are followed
 closely.

 Don't try to get creative here. These details are important. I spent
 months developing this process.

 Paul Lamar


All of the aluminum surfaces were alodined prior to appling any sealing
compounds.

I will look into a re design where the slide throttle is fastened
independent from the sealplate fasteners.

Joe Berki
Limo EZ


You must have only one of two of those "Doc" slide throttles.
I have the other one :)

WAY over kill :)

Paul Lamar

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