Good day Mr. Lamar,
As you may be aware, the new Norton Motorcycles Ltd. (UK)
is back in the rotary business, taking off where the
former Norton company left off in the mid-90's after
being effectively banned from UK motorcycle road racing
for being too successful in winning against reciprocating
competition. Sorta got "Mazda'd" I guess. The current
NRV-588 twin-rotor liquid-cooled motor making 170 BHP
at 11,500 RPM according to website.
That being said, I'm curious as to whether you've kept
up with events at the past and present Norton organizations
and rotary development there. The past Norton organization
manufactured until the mid-nineties very desirable street
versions on their rotary which were unfortunately never
sent to our shores, although I know of a couple acquired
illegally thru Canada. Until the time the new batch of
rotaries are available here, I'm stuck with my two '72 Norton
Commandos with their 1947 design motor. Still cool though!
I enjoy your site, especially the Jim Hall/Chapparal conversation.
Sincerely,
Al Koivisto
Yes I have heard about the new Norton.
That is good news indeed. From the RPM numbers
I assume they are running silicon nitride rotor bearings:)
The AIXRO engine is the same size and weighs only 24 Kg
or 52.8 pounds for a remarkable power to weight ratio
of 3 pounds per HP!!!!
Norton should start their own rotary only road racing series :)
Mazda should do the same demonstrating to the world lap time
advantages on the same road courses the piston engines use.
If it were not for the artificial rev limit in Rolex GT
and the artificial and arbitrary minimum race car weight,
Mazda rotaries would dominate any road racing series.
Who needs piston engines :)
Paul Lamar
To shed a little light on the Norton subject.
The Norton design was sold to Midwest engines ( England) Yes,
aircraft,
which produced two engines, a 50hp single rotor, which they got
certified as
an aircraft engine in england. They also produced the two rotor 100HP
version which they were attempting to certify. The originals used
Tillotsen (I
think carbs and an electronic ignition system. Sometime later they
redesigned
the intake to include electronic ignition and fuel injection. Shortly
before this change, the company ran into financial problems and was
bought by
Diamond aircraft.
The Norton engine, then renamed Midwest then renamed Diamond was
produced
shortly and then Diamond closed their Midwest branch (moved to
Austria.) The
aero engine single rotor has reemerged under the name Diamond
[Austro Engines], I believe
for one of it's {Alexander Schelecter] motor gliders. I am unaware
of the two rotor.
[It is still there]
It is my understanding that one of the key figures in Midwest, Richard
Negus, a great guy, somehow got rights or whatever and is now the
force between
the Norton rotary, now, in England.
Rich
Over 500 Austro Engines one rotors have been sold.
Here is a picture of Richard Negus when he was in Austria.
Austro Engines is working on a larger version of the
one rotor rated at 75 HP at only 6000 RPM or so. If fitted
with silicon nitride rotor bearings RPM could
go up to the 10,000 RPM range and HP to about 125 HP
depending on the diameter of the p-port.
Paul Lamar
Well Paul/ rotary engine developers
To answer your earlier question, the LSA guys need piston engines.
For some reason the world wide rotary community cant seem to field a
viable AIRCRAFT rotary engine in the 80-125 HP range. Rotamax ignored
all the conventional wisdom and paid a big price for it. Good luck
getting a return email from Wankel on a purchase. Even the recent
email from Poul Woelfle was a, we have something in the works.... Good
men like Richard Sohn have made great progress, but it has taken a lot
of time; as all great projects with maximum personal commitments and
minimum manpower do.
For those of us into aircraft design/construction, taking time off to
reinvent the single rotor Mazda is time spent not building airplanes.
I can do one or the other, not both. Our Windwalker design is in cold
storage in part because of this problem.
So forgive the bitter tone, but there are still guys who need the 100
hp piston engine, if for no other reason than a stop-gap solution till
a viable LSA rotary engine is available. Really available.
If I'm wrong, somebody please provide the contact information of the
company with the 100 horse rotary (not requiring me to R&D a redrive)
and I'll start eating crow. I would even accept a kit offering, a la
aero-vee.
Still 100% in love with the rotary; ticked off that I have to use a
piston engine...
Chris Cosman
P.S. Please don't kick me off the list for this little outburst.. :)
The Hirth gear box will work off the shelf. It is unfortunate
that Chris Dries, owner of Austro Engines and Diamond is focused on
selling his diesel and not his 2 rotor rotary engines but he was a victim
of Thielert more or less. We cannot all see clearly all of the time.
Paul Lamar
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