Subject: Some progress today
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 11/11/2010, 11:44 PM
To: AAA Put this in the To box


  I went up today for a few laps at 3000 over Paine Field. The engine ran well
  below the staging point, but started stumbling when above the staging point. It
  ran smoothly through the staging transition on the ground, but when in the air I
  could not tell by the mixture monitor if it was lean or rich. I tried leaning it
  out and richening it up, but results were inconclusive so I stayed below the
  staging point for the remainder of the flight. I'll tune it in flight when I can
  get higher.  Temps were down around 130 degrees at 4800 RPM and 110 mph, MP was
  not noted.

  I accidentally hit the cold start switch while on downwind with two other planes
  ahead of me, and  the tower told me to go around on final with the engine
  stumbling badly, but the plane ahead turned off onto the taxiway just in time so
  I told the tower that I would really like to land, so they cleared me.I still
  had 7000 feet of runway ahead of me.  The engine died as I turned off onto the
  taxiway and then I noticed the cold start switch. The first order of business
  was making and installing a switch guard for the cold start switch. I'm also
  going to pre-load the switch with a rubber band so it stays in the off position
  unless I'm pushing it on, and can just pull the rubber band off of it if I need
  to shut down a set of injectors and run the remaining injectors on cold
  start.(limp home mode for failed injector.)

  The fuel self transferring issue was resolved by installing manual valve on the
  transfer line between the tanks.



  Brian Trubee

  Dave Leonard had an off airport landing because of that cold start switch.
  One can get a flip up guard that covers the switch to prevent inadvertent
  operation.

  "The fuel self transferring issue was resolved by installing manual valve on the
  transfer line between the tanks."

  Are you sure about that Brian?
  Did you notice the fuel pressure when the engine starting running rough?
  Could be you sealed the right tank when you closed the transfer valve.
  I suspect the right tank vent is not working.

  Paul Lamar



  The right tank vent is working- I put a piece of tubing over the tank vent,
  opened up the tank fill, put my ear to it and blew into the tubing- heard the
  air going into the tank.

  But yes- I didn't check the fuel pressure at the staging point, that's a good
  point, and it's on my to-do list.

  Also- to everyone out there running the EM2- what do you have for calibration
  settings for your manifold pressure- what values do you have for scale factor,
  low end offset, etc? I screwed around with mine and need to get it back to where
  it should be. Between all those variables, I'm having a hard time figuring out
  what all these values are supposed to be.


  Any help here would be appreciated.

  Brian Trubee

                         

Brian

The map data that i finally wound up with after 250 hrs is on the attachment.

John Prendergast

Got any pictures of your intake plenum John?
Where is the pressure tap located in that plenum?

Paul Lamar

        Paul

Tried sending a  1.6 mb photo but a message keeps saying that either it cant find or will send as a 0 byte file.
Pressure tap is between throttle body and plenum.

John Prendergast    


I should have no trouble on this end with 1.5 meg.
I am not sure what is going one yet.


Try sending that jpg again. If that does not work and
if you have photo shop it can be scaled down.

If not try downloading this free photo software and scale it down
with that.

http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/freesoftware/fr/photoscape.htm

Also if you have the raw data for that graph or the (xls file
is best) please send that.

From the looks of the graph you sent there is wide variations
in the amount of air actually getting in the engine at different throttle openings. I assume the axis is intake manifold pressure.
There should be minor mixture variations but not such wide variations
with such small changes in manifold pressure. In other words
the air getting in the engine should be directly proportionals
to intake manifold absolute pressure. Obviously this is not
happening.

Milo is loaning me an engine with a side port intake manifold
so I will be able to study the pressure variations in a typical
plenum.

Has Tracy ever told you when he samples the intake manifold
pressure relative to the e-shaft TDC?

This is a question for everybody that is using Tracy's EFI system.
That will effect the pressure pulses in the plenum.


Thanks

Paul Lamar

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