Has anyone suggestion for high altitude turbocharger
(40000feet-12000m) for renesis (75% of maximum power)?
Garrett?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/products/turbochargers.html
B.r.
Viktor
All,
Perhaps this was discussed before, but I 'discovered' a
fabulous
book on the rotary engine: Street Rotary by Mark
Warner, and his
equally fabulous book: Street Turbocharging. Warner is the real
deal: "Mark Warner is a professionally licensed
mechanical
engineer, a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers,
and
an expert in the fields of turbochargers and forced
induction. He
has over 25 years of machine design and fabrication
experience,
ranging from complex aerospace systems to high-performance
automotive applications. He is the author of numerous
patents and
has published dozens of articles for the automotive press,
including
technical, how-to, and feature pieces."
But the best thing about his books is that he tells you the
numbers
you need to know about the rotary and [in both books]
about
turbocharging...
the important stuff without getting too lost in extraneous
nonsense.
His books
are WELL illustrated, simple to understand, and he always
supplies you
with relevant numbers such as typical operating temperature
ranges and
pressures for oil, coolant, boost, etc etc.
I carefully read the first book, took careful notes, and I
feel I can
much more confidently follow the conversations after having
done so!!
In fact, I have an extra "Street Turbocharging" book by
Warner I can
send someone for free if they desire.
Gene Kahn
Gene
I would like to take you up on that generous offer. Will cover USPS
media mail costs with Paypal.
regards Robert
I just ordered one.
Mark LaPierre
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Does the book explain calculation corrections caused by drop in
inlet density and pressure with altitude?
Calculations by Garrett are logical, but they are for cars - do not
include altitude calculations. With altitude one has almost same
mass flow but much higher volume flow and different blade relative
angles. So the turbocharger increases by size for the same mass flow.
Doug, five years ago I was in Himalaya (trip from Lassa to Mount
Everest base camp 3800m-5600m). One can find there cold (no wood no
heating at all), "thin" air but still strong wind, extreme low
humidity, dust, uneatable "zampa" and useful yak tea. Maybe there
are bees but I didn't find them.
Viktor
Here are a couple of spread sheets that might help.
js was done by a gentleman that achieved 50,000 feet with a sequential
turbo 914 although the spread does not reflect that.
Paul Lamar
Viktor, Paul and all,
If I interpret Viktor's question correctly...no, the book does not
explain calculation
corrections caused by drop in inlet pressure and density with
altitude. It just
shows compressor maps, and explains them very well. It does
explain things like the "choke zone" [such as when the compressor
is too small for the application] and wheel speeds will increase
while compressor efficiency declines dramatically...and it also
explains compressor surge, when the compressor is too large
for the application, which can also cause turbo failure from
bearing failure. However, compressor maps are based on
pressure ratio vs corrected air flow, usually at 85 degrees F.
To the extent that inlet pressure and corrected air flow
are affected by altitude [and varying temperatures] this could
affect the map.
And now I will speculate on Viktor's question in case others might be
wondering the same thing, and also so that I can be corrected
by Paul and others: I am guessing that a high density altitude might
mimic a compressor too small for the job and lead to a "choke zone"
but trying to compensate for such a situation by using a larger
compressor might lead to surge at lower altitudes. Just have to have
a waste gate unless we use aerocharger adjustable vanes.
OK everybody, rip me to shreds.
Gene Kahn
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