Subject: ALMS + Delta Wing update.
From: Rotary Engine
Date: 7/16/2011, 6:26 PM
To: AAA Put this in the To box


Interesting stuff on ALMS...and the future Sebring (??) and Le
 Mans  project for  DeltaWing.

  http://gordonkirby.com/categories/columns/theway/2011/the_way_it_is_no294.ht
  ml

  Ron  G

  These guys are clueless  :)

  http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/le-mans-deltawing-to-build-lmp1-
  car-for-20 12-24-hour-race/

  Lateral  weight transfer on the front would be ludicrous just for
  one of many  problems. No down force. My prediction it will never
  get past testing if  hardware is ever built.

  Don Fuller and Csaba should be able to tell you  that... both
  beinggraduates of my race car engineering school  :)

  http://www.rotaryeng.net/who.html

  http://www.rotaryeng.net/AIAA-Paper.pdf

  http://www.rotaryeng.net/Road-and-Track-69a.pdf

  On  and on :)

  Paul Lamar

  There are several aspects of this Delta thing that bring on much
  eye-rolling but just one of them is this: It should be fairly easy
  to take someold race car -- wouldn't much matter what -- and
  cutoff the conventional nose and fabricate some narrow front end,
  knockoff some approximate body work and do  a little quick and
dirty  testing, just to sort of investigate the fundamental
concept.But,  with all the big bucks being thrown at this, as far as
Iknownobody has  done that.  This thing violates every principle of
downforce and weight transfer, so far as I know, in existence.  I  can't
  imagine being a driver and trying to outbrake somebody on corner
  entry and having this thing darting all over the place.

  All the "half the drag" arguments sound just like all the "twice
the  downforce, half the drag" claims we used to hear in the '70s about
  the latest aerodynamic wonder and none of it ever proved true.
 Even  when Trevor  Harris did the original Shadow he was aiming at
takinga big leap in projected development down a predictable path  --
 lowerthe center of gravity  and reduce the frontal area -- and
there werehuge developmental issues on  details just to make the  concept
  drivable, let alone competitive.

  As I remember, just a couple of issues with that car meant that
  therealities of engine intake, exhaust, cooling and lubrication
  resulted in the frontal area going back to just about where
everyone  else was anyway, and the little tires and tight bodywork severely
  limited the size of the brakes. And that was done by a guy who knew
  what he was talking about.

  If this Delta is the greatest thing since sliced bread then I say
  build the sumbitch, put a fast guy in the seat and see what he
  does with it.  So far, all I think they have are lots of pictures
  and a roll-around  mock-up. And a bunch of wild-eyed amazement
  from people whodon't know  anything about race cars.

  I do understand why other people are getting involved, though.
   There  is probably some money from somewhere that's being thrown
  around.

  Just my opinion.

  Love and kisses --

  Uncle Don

  There is a good reason not to race trikes. Remember Arte Johnson
and  the old man on the trike on Laugh In. Any one who tries this is
 demonstrating the possibility we evolved from Chimps. Only trouble
is, the chimps are the smart side of that family!

  Dale Davies

  Good point :) There is a Reliant Robin three wheel car in England
  that rolls

  over anytime an attempt is made to corner at anything over a fast
  trot according to BBC Top Gear.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8

  Paul Lamar

  My best suggestion is to drive it backwards, so it has two wide
  wheels in the front. That would at least keep it from tilting;-)

  Poul

  Does that mean that if a drunk walks home backwards, they will not
  fall down?
  :-)))

  Dale Davies

Davies,

Back in the day . . . the early 1970s when the Reliant first flapped
its three wings, we used to say it not only rolls, it rocks.  lol

And didn't they call the one-person, two-wheel version the Self Reliant?
  jd (John Dinkel)



Four wheel model was the Plymouth Reliant. Reception about the same:-))).

Dale Davies


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