I keep coming back to this design for that and other reasons.
Also because it can be retrofitted to Tracy's gear box.
The stiffness of the silicone blocks can be almost anything.
Not because it is my design :)
Paul Lamar
Paul, I am willing to do some of the leg work getting these parts
made if
you like. Industrial metal supply is a few blocks from where I live,
they
can cut most of it. Plenty of other cutting options nearby as well.
And to get a prototype made, I can weld it up too. Have an 84
syncrowave
waiting for a job.
Ed Carver
Great Ed go for it. I think there are some laser cutters in your
neighborhood.
I am in the boonies when it comes to industrial stuff. Are you up
to speed on Rhino or Solid Works? Most laser cutters guys can take
Solid
Works
files. I can send Rhino files that will load into Solid Works.
Mazdatrix sells suitable ring gears. Does Industrial metal supply sell
4130
sheet?
Use a .090" for the flex plate. A bit over kill IMHO but fine for
a test prototype. I'll test it on the RV4 after I get a few hours
on it.
You might want to make a prototype with cheap sheet steel to be certain
everything fits on a counter weight.
Get all that want them to send a deposit. Let me know what you
need and I will send a check or cash your choice.
Paul Lamar
No rhino yet. I have Industrial metal working on a quote for the raw
stock
.090 4130. They do water jet and will take one of your rhino files
maybe.
I
will be down there tomorrow to purchase the 1 inch tube for my engine
mount.
Ed Carver
OK Ed. Let us know what they are charging for 1 inch .049 4130 so we
can
compare
prices.
Check with IM and see if they can accept IGES or stp files.
I can send them to you and you can give them a DVD or thumb drive.
Paul Lamar
They will take stp or iges.
.090 4130 3'x12'=$525 I figured it is a little more than needed to make
20
parts.
They did not stock .050 4130 one inch tube, so I priced what they did
have;
.065 x 30 feet=$130
They do water jet and laser cutting. Contact Terry Hill:
thill@imsmetals.comHe apparently is the programmer for the lasers.
I will, as usual, price this stuff elseware, IMS has usually been less
costly compared to other local vendors. They do discount for larger
orders,
and business accounts. Which does'nt include me.
If the .050 tube is more than sufficient, I will us it for sure.
Ed Carver
I would go easy on the quantify of material bought until we test this
thing.
Try .049" perhaps somebody is not reading the list properly.
Yes the .065" is over kill for the motor mounts and too heavy.
I have to leave in a couple of days for a week in Reno so I will
not get the dwgs done until I get back.
AC Spruce is not bad on cost.
Paul Lamar
I need to make a trip to ac spruce to get epoxy, etc. I'll pick up a
12x24
piece of 90 thou plate, it's about $30. I can make a prototype out of
cheap
stuff from ims.
Ed Carver
Great Ed.
The splined plate is made from part 675 in this dwg I think but I could
be wrong.
You might want to get one and find out. I'll see if I can get one when I
come
back from Reno if you can wait. I think Tracy adds a short cylinder
to act
as
a pilot in the eshaft. I know it is not a stock manual transmission
clutch
spline. The 2.85:1 planetary gear set is part number 582 and the sun
gear
is
612. Ring gear is 592.
Paul Lamar
The 675 center shaft appears to be the only thing that the forward
planet
can ride on. So without seeing it, the back side of it must have the
female
splines. The brown part you drew shows the end removed but I am not
sure why
sense I have never seen Tracy's unit on the bench.
Discussion has been made about creating a lighter psru. It would'nt
bother
me to begin to work on getting this done. If all it is' is getting
lighter
smaller bearing assemblies for front and rear, then we just need to
create a
new housing to hold it all.
Where do I go to get the parts? Is Makco the place? I have a lot of
transmission shops nearby, that is why it only cost me $75 to rebuild
my MPV
Ford transmission clutch basket assembly. I have a 6 pinion planet
set saved
on my ebay page. I just don't know about the rest of it.
Ed Carver
Here's some ebay items for the center shaft:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-4R100-SHAFT-CENTER-USED-NO-TIP-/400241251377?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d303cd431
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E4OD-4R100-Heavy-Duty-Center-Support-/120700943010?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c1a563aa2
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/E40D-4R100-UPDATED-BEARING-TYPE-CENTER-SUPPORT-KIT-NEW-/330546282796?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cf618012c
Ed Carver
Hi Ed;
There are several versions of that C6/E4OD/4R100 center shaft.
At least 1 version has a center pilot extension on the splined end.
The ones I have seen have a large bored cavity in the non-splined end
(red in the image)
I don't believe there is enough material to add a sun gear,
although I have not checked the specific sun gear part you are considering.
I'm guessing Tracy has his shafts custom made with the correct spline.
Cheers
Cary
Not custom made. Some part from some automatic.
Paul Lamar
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