Paul, was sent an email about the Open Fuel Standard Act, basically they
outline how to get gasoline prices back to $2 a gallon, by requiring all
new
cars to run equally well on gasoline, ethanol, and most importantly --
methanol.  Methanol is made from coal, and we have the worlds largest
supply
of coal, estimated at 1,000 years supply, along with many of our closest
allies.

http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/learn/email-archives/2461-2-per-gallon-gas


Question is has any work been done running Methanol in a Wankel Engine?
As
stated they say that methanol has 1/2 the energy per gallon of gasoline,
but
is 105 octane, they imply that is can burn more efficiently.

The Open Fuel Standard Act plan is intended to break the OPEC Oil Cartel's
hold on world wide energy.  Sounds good basically, and if it works to
reduce
exhaust emissions that would place the Rotary Engine back in the race,
right???

GFCurtis Jr.

Plenty of drag racers run methanol.

The price of gasoline will drop a dollar a gallon
Tuesday, November 6, 2012 at 10PM eastern standard time.

Paul Lamar


LOL that's funny Paul, now you are the wizard of Wall Street, sure you
don't want to pick 11 PM ???

GFCurtis Jr.



Who said elections don't matter, but I don't think we can put this back in
the bottle now, to many Middle Eastern Nations have changed leadership and
its not going to get fixed by an election...
George Curtis Jr.

Most of our oil comes from the western hemisphere.
The Canadians are dieing to sell us oil but we refuse to put in a pipe
line.

Paul Lamar


It doesn't matter where oil comes from as our consumption keeps pricing
high, which supports various terrorist organizations. Oil is a fungible
commodity.


Matt-

fun·gi·ble

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(especially of goods) being of such nature or kind as to be freely
exchangeable
or replaceable, in whole or in part, for another of like nature or kind.

I had to look it up :)

We must be vigilant of those Cunuck terrorist :)


Paul Lamar

Matt

If you read the links here you can see that if we used an additive of 15%to
gasoline, be it methanol, thus not driving up corn prices, made from coal,
that we reduce a huge amount of usage, that takes our 64% imports down to
say 54% (some one can find the exact percentage reduction) that 10% is huge
since our usage amount is huge.

Now consider that large numbers of backup electric generation plants (by
design they must come online fast to avoid brown outs) are fired by either
oil or natural gas, it drops another large usage area.  Then you also
consider that South Africa has produced gasoline (150,000 barrels of crude
oil from 120,000 tons of coal daily, two plants) since the 1970's.  Only
down side is that it costs big to build those plants, but that is the sort
of investment a government makes for national security, not solar energy,
say Solyndra anyone?

Those interested in reading the Plant Fossils of West Virginia website does
address 800,000 years of climate temperature and CO2 levels an interesting
read.  Data that scientists have found in geological records.

"It doesn't matter where oil comes from as our consumption keeps pricing
high, which supports various terrorist organizations (disagrees with Paul,
Cunuck's do not raise terrorist's, if you do not count hockey fans, just
kidding, we all know Canadian Hockey Fans are highly civilized?). Oil is a
fungible commodity" quote Matt.
Hate to toss in Economics, Law of Supply and Demand, if currently they
produce $1.38 a gallon methanol, once you raise its sales value say 25%
((since building Flex Fuel Vehicles that use either methanol (Open Fuel
Standard bill H.R. 1687), or ethanol changes demand upward)) every
manufacturer will increase his output to the limit of their plants
capacity.  Once they reach that limit of capacity they will build more
plants to meet the demand until that base cost of building another plant
meets a profit wall and the cost of production does not change from $1.38a
gallon.  Thus it would spiral upward production until it meets a
price/supply of gasoline spiraling downward to meet a price that both match
each other on a BTU basis from each fuel.

OPEC could distort this output by turning up their production to drive these
plants out of business, forcing more production into the pipelines than
needed.  That's where backing of National Governments must come in, as OPEC
starts ramping up production, the nations whom want freedom from OPEC must
guarantee some sort of barrier against OPEC's actions. Weather its tax
breaks, buying excess methanol for a reserve, or other protections, OPEC
will not hold together for very long if shown clear resolve to break their
cartel.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Energy.html

http://www.actforamerica.org/index.php/learn/email-archives/2461-2-per-gallon-gas

GFCurtis Jr.