Subject: more replies from bearing suppliers
From: "rotaryeng@earthlink.net" <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>
Date: 1/8/2012, 8:08 AM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box


Hi Paul, I will happily make a purchase of the bearing type we want.
What I need to verify is the bearing type. The bearing type I
   requested
a quote on is to the best of my knowledge the appropriate type
   for our
purposes.

Following your prompt in suggesting we use a deep groove conrad type
bearing assembly, I compared the various constructs available form
several manufacturers using their own comparison charts. So it
   appears
to me that the deep groove open radial bearing is the best
   option for
our needs. The static, dynamic, and thrust loads appear to be well
within our tolerances so long as we can hold the bearing securely in
place.

Please let me know if you believe a different design is better
   suited
for the task. I am holding off the salesman for a day or two before
placing an order, at which point, I will likely be waiting a good 6
weeks for delivery.


Here are the general specs being offered for the preferred size 6821
common bearing 105x130x13mm

   Hybrid ceramic Open cage deep groove radial for handling
   longitudinal loads fore and aft.
   440c stainless rings rockwell C 60 +-2. good to 350F
   PTFE cage is the most common for hybrid designs.
   Ball number ranges from 27 for 1/4 balls, to 34 for the smaller
balls

   Only one company has given me pricing. $58 each unit but
   they may
   demand 12 units minimum and have requested we send them $220
   extra
   for courier delivery.

   The company is:

   Luoyang rockwellprecision bearing Co., LTD

   TAX:+86-15036573663 <tel:%2B86-15036573663
   <tel:%2B86-15036573663 <tel:%2B86-15036573663



   FAX:+379-64152695

   Email: ber345@live.cn <mailto:ber345@live.cn
   <mailto:ber345@live.cn <mailto:ber345@live.cn


   Web Site: www.rwbearing.com <http://www.rwbearing.com
   <http://www.rwbearing.com


Ed Carver


I called VXB and the part number is the same as Shanghai Lilly
but it is not Hybrid ceramic. Forget VXB.
We will have to buy direct from shanghai lilly.

   http://en.lily-bearing.com/

   http://en.lily-bearing.com/____about.htm
   <http://en.lily-bearing.com/__about.htm

   <http://en.lily-bearing.com/__about.htm
   <http://en.lily-bearing.com/about.htm

I'll be going over there in Feb so hold off.

Henry can probably find a distributor in Hong Kong and we will
order them ahead of time and I will bring them back in my
carry on.


Paul Lamar



   I've been in contact with Lily, see below. For two they want $550+
     Ed

   */////Dear Ed Carver*

   *Thank you for choosing us.*

   *According to our quotation on January 5, we request of the minimum
   order is 5pcs.*

   * if you reduce the quantity to 2pcs, our price will be increased. Below
   are new quotation,check pls.*

   *2pcs   US$250/pc
   Freight:US$150
   Total:US$550
   Delivery time:15days
   If you have any question, please feel free to contact us.*
   **
   *
   *
   Vicky cheng
   Tel:(86)21-51696239
   Fax:(86)21-51010235
   Shanghai Lily Bearing Manufacturing Co.,Ltd.
   30 Lane 1588 South Hong Mei Rd.Shanghai,
   China 200237.
   http://en.lily-bearing.com/



   2012/1/6 Ed Carver <edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com
   <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com

   Yes Vicky, and thank you for your response.
   We have been quoted 12 similar units for about $900 from another vendor
   including freight. It is the minimum required purchase amount that is
   delaying our carrying through with an order. In other words, I would buy
   two of your bearings for the stated unit price.
   We are creating a prototype using these bearings. If the bearings fail
   on the test stand, then it makes the rest of the order worthless to us.
   So we are reluctant to take the risk in buying more than necessary at
   this point.

     I will gladly purchase two units from you.

   Thank you!
   Ed Carver




------------------------------__------------------------------__------------

   *From:* Vicky Cheng <vicky@lily-bearing.com
   <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com
   <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com__
   *To:* Ed Carver <edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com
   <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com

   *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2012 10:41 PM

   *Subject:* Re: Thin section bearings

   *Dear **Ed Carver*

   *Did you receive the quotation that I've sent u? *
   *What do you think of our price?Would you consider buying from us?*
   *We look forward to cooperation with you. so waiting for your reply.*
   *thank you.*


   Vicky cheng
   Tel:(86)21-51696239
   Fax:(86)21-51010235
   Shanghai Lily Bearing Manufacturing Co.,Ltd.
   30 Lane 1588 South Hong Mei Rd.Shanghai,
   China 200237.
   http://en.lily-bearing.com/



   2012/1/5 Vicky Cheng <vicky@lily-bearing.com
   <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com
   <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com__
   *Dear **Ed Carver*
   *
   *
   *According to your requirement, offer as follows,check pls.*
   *
   Quotation :
   5pcs  US$180/pc
   Freight:US$200
   Total:US$1100
   Delivery time:10days
   If you have any question, please feel free to contact us.
   Referring to the detailed introduction, pls browse our website:
   http://en.lily-bearing.com/cp.__htm <http://en.lily-bearing.com/cp.htm

   *


   Vicky cheng
   Tel:(86)21-51696239
   Fax:(86)21-51010235
   Shanghai Lily Bearing Manufacturing Co.,Ltd.
   30 Lane 1588 South Hong Mei Rd.Shanghai,
   China 200237.
   http://en.lily-bearing.com/



   2012/1/4 Ed Carver <edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com
   <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com

   Thanks for replying

   We are building a prototype driveshaft to replace an aging design. So we
   want to order a minimal amount at first. Then after sorting out any
   problems in the design, we will need many more. So to start we really
   only need 2 bearing units. Let us know if you have a minimum for
   ordering from your company, and also if the price changes significantly
   for larger quantities.

   Please also include shipping quote for delivery to:
   Los Angeles CA 91352

   Our ideal size is the common size for part number 6821 or similar
   105x130x13mm. Please provide full specifications when replying, such as
   steel type used, ball size and number. Load and speed limits, etc. The
   specifications can vary greatly between different bearing models, so
   please be specific in you quote.

   Hope to hear from you soon.
   Ed Carver



------------------------------__------------------------------__------------

   *From:* Vicky Cheng <vicky@lily-bearing.com
   <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com
   <mailto:vicky@lily-bearing.com__
   *To:* edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com
   <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com

   *Sent:* Wednesday, January 4, 2012 12:35 AM
   *Subject:* Re: Thin section bearings

   *Dear **Ed Carver*
   *
   *
   *Thank you for your inquiry.*
   *We could provide the **thin section **bearings you needed.*
   *Pls kindly tell me the quantity you need.
   I will provide the best price for you.*
   *
   *
   *If you have any question, please feel free to contact us.*
   *Referring to the detailed introduction, pls browse our website:
   http://en.lily-bearing.com/cp.__htm*

   <http://en.lily-bearing.com/cp.htm*


   Vicky cheng
   Tel:(86)21-51696239
   Fax:(86)21-51010235
   Shanghai Lily Bearing Manufacturing Co.,Ltd.
   30 Lane 1588 South Hong Mei Rd.Shanghai,
   China 200237.
   http://en.lily-bearing.com/



   2012/1/3 Cheng <lilybearing@lily-bearing.com
   <mailto:lilybearing@lily-bearing.com

   <mailto:lilybearing@lily-bearing.com


   ---------- Forwarded message ----------
   From: *Ed Carver* <edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com
   <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com <mailto:edc153@yahoo.com
   Date: 2012/1/3
   Subject: Thin section bearings
   To: "lilybearing@lily-bearing.com
   <mailto:lilybearing@lily-bearing.com

   <mailto:lilybearing@lily-bearing.com"
   <lilybearing@lily-bearing.com <mailto:lilybearing@lily-bearing.com

   <mailto:lilybearing@lily-bearing.com


   Hello, I need thin section bearings with these specifications:
   Radial deep groove open or sealed
   Hybrid ceramic
   Silicon nitride balls
   Sized between: 100-105mm id, and 125-130mm od.
   Bearings to be used in a drive shaft at a constant speed approx.
   2,500rpm

   Thank you for your attention to this.

   Ed Carver

   How much for six Ed?

   $150 is a lot for shipping. Too much. I can almost go over there
   for $150 :)

   Henry what do you think about all this?

   Paul Lamar


The price for 5 is $1,100-- including $200 freight, so 6 will likely be
$1280.--
I received another quote for 2000 units at ~$20~ each. cryn shame I
hav'nt got the money lol

Ed Carver


Henry said have them shipped to him in China and he can mail them
for $5.

I still think we should buy only 2 for testing.


Paul Lamar


 yes bulk is cheap if they are worth using, Henry can check them
before spending $150 for shipping.
listen to Paul, he is the man!

Graeme Riley
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