Subject: Latest one barrel Holley for slide throttle 2
From: rotaryeng
Date: 1/12/2012, 6:45 PM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box



Here are some of the latest 3D's showing how the float
bowl moves up and down a half inch to lean the mixture.
 The scale on this DWG is more accurate as I found
my Holley 4 barrel to measure.
 BTW if you apply dynamic pressure to the float bowl
the delivered mixture will be a function of both vacuum
in the venturi throat plus the square law dynamic pressure
In other words the dynamic pressure in the
intake runners will be the square of the air velocity.
At full chat that can be as high as 300 MPH.
Sort of a mini pito tube in the intake runner.
 I am not sure this is what you want but it can always
be leaned and the bottom line is: the fuel will squirt
out into the intake runner better.
 I learned this trick from Ellison.
 The more I work on this the better it looks.
 You will be up and running in 5 minutes not
one year tuning an EFI in the air.
 There are only four cheap parts to make.
The rest of the needed parts are stock Holley.
One can buy a brand new 4 barrel Holley for $250 to scavenge
the parts from. Perhaps someone can find some on ebay.
 Paul Lamar
  Here is a more compact version that will fit under most
cowls.
  Paul Lamar

   Paul,

   The 2 float bowls could be mounted to a single metering plate cross
   drilled with 2 separate outlets.  Then only one unit would have to be
   raised and lowered.  Would this require flex tubing from the bowl
   outlets to the venturi tubes?  We would have to turn a venturi into 2 2
   inch OD tubes?  Just thinking.

   Joe Berki

   It does require flex tubing. Each float bowl needs to be close
   to the jet. Sketch up what you have in mind.

   Here are some dwgs for the Marvel Schribler HA-6
Paul Lamar


 Paul,
 Here is a sketch, I am not sure if there are any other connections to
 the system.  Please elaborate.

 Joe Berki
 Limo EZ

 Nice sketch Joe but you must draw things to scale. Won't fit. The float
 bowl is too long. It must go between the tubes to get the float level
 high enough. That is why a 3D program like Rhino is worth its weight in
 gold.

 Paul Lamar

Paul,

One thing that I notice is that when you draw an intake you wrap it over the top of the block which probably the best way to design it as it goes to the cold side of the engine.  I do not have that option and will route the runners straight out and downward placing any plenums, injectors or other intake components in the wing root aft of the spar. I can also spread the runners apart.  The bowl sandwich could be turned 90 degrees and perhaps take up less space.  Could you go through the principle of how this works?  Does the bowl have to be able to travel lower than the venturi point?  Does this raising and lowering of the bowl cause the amount of fuel to vary?  Does it change the pulling potential of the low pressure in the venturi?  The needle valve is the same at both points and the fuel level in the bowlis the same.  i am an electrical type not mechanical although building a plane is a great education in all things mechanical.
Thanks for any help
Joe Berki
Limo EZ

It is a close kin to a U tube manometer.
Here is a good dissertation.