Subject: Aluminum vs Steel
From: rotaryeng
Date: 1/14/2012, 12:03 AM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box


Paul:

Just a general question here about the weight advantage of using
aluminum over steel in the various implementations of rotary engine
technology.

It seems to be a foregone conclusion that all prototype add-ons for
engines are to be made of aluminum (mounts, adapters, housings, and the
new large-diameter PSRU shaft).  I sometime wonder whether the cost of
materials, exotic welding requirements, specialized tooling, etc.
required for making prototypes from aluminum is really worth the effort.

How much weight is really saved by using aluminum when one is required
to upscale the geometry of all components to get the required strength
from aluminum as apposed to steel?

I realize that finding the expertise and technology to develop
prototypes from aluminum in southern California is much easier that
where I live. As a high school kid I would melt down smashed up
vacuum-cleaners and such in our home's coal-fired furnace to make my own
simple aluminum castings. And that, I am afraid, is still my best local
source of foundry expertise and metallurgical resources.  I can however
make/have-made  most anything I need from steel by any number of local
companies.

Remember here ...  I am questioning/talking mostly about using aluminum
instead of steel when building one-of-a-kind creations and
proof-of-concept projects.  Is it worth it?

R. Berglund

It is too hard to generalize like that. Take our new prop shaft for
example. The cost of a custom steel forging and machining the
forging out of steel is out of sight. A large dimeter machined
billet aluminum prop shaft is only made possible by a major
breakthrough in thin section bearings. Namely silicon nitride balls.
The torsional and bending strength of any shaft goes up with the
diameter to at least the cube if not the fourth power so it makes
sense to make the prop shaft as large in diameter as possible. The
stress on the material plummets  for a given torque and bending load
if the shaft is made larger.

The drawback to that, before high speed lite weight thin section
bearings, was the size and weight of old conventional steel ball
bearings. Tracy's front PSRU bearing alone weighs 3 pounds.

That also makes using lower strength, lighter weight aluminum shafts
possible while  keeping the weight down. The same design in steel
would weigh three times as much. One must always keep the big
picture in mind.

IMHO these ceramic thin section bearings are going to cause a
revolution in rotating machinery design. Already electric cars are
being designed with larger diameter axles with internal  electric
motors and planetary gear boxes. Not practical before thin section
hybrid ceramic bearings. I would not be a bit surprised if Formula 1
racing cars were already using large diameter axles with thin
section ceramic bearings.

Paul Lamar


I did a lot of reading on this type bearing over the past few weeks. It
is obvious there are many bearing manufacturers tooling up to produce
these. Sizes range from skate wheel bearing size on up to about 30 feet
dia. with 1/4 balls or smaller.

Porsche has been using cast alum in their hub designs for about 20 years
now. Makes for lighter unsprung weight, especially when used with their
ceramic matrix aluminum brake rotors. There are many cars with alum tube
drive shafts now. And a few with designs similar to Paul's design with a
bearing inside of a large tube holding a shaft. The large tube shaft
idea has been spreading rapidly lately with the use of these large thin
bearings. They increase the precision of the shaft assembly.

Ed Carver



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