Hi Paul,

 My EFISM calculates RPM based on the period between injector pulses since
 they are (for the rotary engine) 360 deg apart or once per revolution.  I
 run the chips at 32 Mhz which gives me a CPU clock internal of 1 usec.
 The
 PIC 18F6722 has its own CCP module which has several configurations you
 can
 select as to what pulse conditions you want to trigger it.  At 32 Mhz the
 time required for rpm calculation is insignificant compared to the period
 between pulses even at 8000 rpm.   This is all integer math - no floating
 point, because its just not needed when you have a resolution of 1 usec
 tics
 for the period compared to even a 1 Msec  period.

 The module is set up (in the EFISM) case to measure the period between
 pulses in clock cycles.   Then this clock cycle count of the rotation
 period
 is turned into an RPM through the following calculations.

 //These two calculations are done prior to enter Tach RPM  display Loop.
 PPR = Pulses per Revolution.

                 if (Tach_ConfigRPM.Tach_PPR = 0) then  //used for sine
 wave generators Westach for a PPR of 1/2   or once per 720 deg cycle
                   Tach_K := 60000000 * 2    //1/2 PPR
                else
                   Tach_K := (60000000 div Tach_ConfigRPM.Tach_PPR); //
 1/2 PPR  //used for all other PPR values

  //The Tach_K calculation is done once in the initialization period of
 the EFISM so only the following division is done each pulse interval

                RPM_Tach := Tach_K div R_Period;  //RPM calculated based
 on TACH_K constant, R_Period has the number of clock tics between pulses

 the chip module counts the clock ticks between injector pulses and then
 adjusts for whatever PPR (Pulse per rev) figure is being used (its 1 for
 the
 rotary and 2 for most 720 cycle piston engines ) and then figures in the
 constant 6000000 to turn it into time/rpm.  The constant is naturally
 dependent on the CPU clock cycles which is dependent on the oscillator
 freq
 which is dependent on the chip - so will vary for other chip frequencies
 or
 different chip types.  Remember I do not use a separate TACH input - its
 all
 derived from the injector cycle.

 Regarding the 7 Seg displays, no I did not notice a drop off in
 brightness,
 but  I used a "ganged" set of 4 in one module - rather than an individual
 7
 seg module for each numeral.  Don't know if that would have made a
 difference or not.

 Regarding the EFISM TACH - for one customer who wanted to use the EFISM as
 his primary  Tach (which it really was not intended for - the RPM data was
 available so I just threw it in).  In his  case, I moved the rpm from the
 display screen you see it on - to the display screen with the air/fuel
 ratio
 bar at the top and fuel flow displayed.  The Fuel Used was moved to the
 display where the rpm had been displayed.   So this gave the customer
 air/fuel ratio, fuel flow and RPM on one screen.  I also made the rpm
 Digits
 larger to where they filled the display horizontally.

 Ed Anderson



 Henry Nee wrote:
 Paul,

 Not sure if you are still looking for a separate RPM meter. I found
 one in China that operates on 12V supply for about US$10. The maker
 claims that it measures the duration of the pulses and convert it to
 RPM so it can update pretty fast but did not give me an exact time.
 From my readings, it seems that most of those meters operates on two
 modes. For lower RPM, they measure the duration between pulses, and
 for higher RPM, they measure the number of counts per second or 0.1
 second, depending on the accuracy you want.

 If you are still thinking about a dedicated RPM meter, it has 0.5" LED
 display, and can count up to 9999 RPM.

 Add another $10 or so for mail. Let me know.

 regards,

 Henry

 Henry sent me this $10 digital tach from Hong Kong.
 Works pretty good.  Thanks Henry.


 The display is what we call multiplexed where in the
 segments are blinking on an off at high speed.

 If you try to take a picture and the camera lens snaps at the
 wrong time the display will blurred. However the human eye
 is not quick enough to see that. The net effect is the
 display is not quite  as bright as it could be. However
 I can still read it from across the room.

 This is done with some sort of low cost single chip
 computer. I can't tell you which one as the part number
 has been sanded off the chip :) It is about
 one inch by 3 inches. Probably an Atmel.

 It also has a serial in/out connection so it can send tach
 data to another computer. Could be used to feed RPM to
 a 555 EFI system that had a look up mix trim table.

 Paul Lamar


 How can I obtain a couple of them?
 I want to get the parts for the MAF 555 design, and put it all together,
 then work on some programming for it.

 It will be slow I suppose, but I think my wife and I can conquer it when we
 get something ready to use.

 Ed Carver

 Henry, you better bring 10 back with you at Christmas time. I'll front the
 money.

 I have A few 555 PC boards you can use Ed and some parts.

 Paul Lamar


Matt just sent a link to ebay seller giorgio11185 store name Asia Engineer.
This seller lists a 0-5v red led frequency panels 4 each for $22 shipped.
ebay item # 250672016774
Might save Henry some time going back for another batch.

Ed Carver

Late reply to Ed,

I spend over half of the year in China. So no problem for me getting
you guys stuff from there. Glad to be able to help.

Henry Nee