Paul,
Hooray, I finally understand the Obama energy policy! It's
simple. When he says "All of the above" he means "None of the
below". "Above" includes only wind and solar and solar, of
course, covers anything which requires light to grow thereby
including most synthetic fuels. These fuels do not generate
any CO2 overall because any CO2 generated by burning them will
quickly be absorbed by growing plants somewhere. Simple
recycling. "Below" covers anything which must be drilled or
mined in some fashion. See, isn't that simple?
Fred O.
Simple yes effective no :) Paul Lamar
Paul,
I was really surprised that I wasn't taken to the woodshed
regarding the above "recycling" but then I did say it was
Obama's policy. Actually, due to my education here on your
site I fully understand that it takes a lot of energy to
acquire biomass and convert it to biofuel. Unless the entire
process is solar powered (wind is solar) there will be a large
amount of CO2 generated in excess of that generated by burning
the biofuel.
Fred O.
But who cares? We need the CO2 to grow more food. The doomsday
scenario for excess CO2 and global warming is left wing propaganda
pure and simple and they know it. It is all about political power.
If they can convince you we will all die from CO2 just give them
the political power and they will fix it. Sure! Just like Hitler fixed
the economy of Germany in the early 1930's.
This is from the guy making the measurements:
http://www.rotaryeng.net/CO2-640.wmv
Paul Lamar
A few years ago a company; Syntech, had a division for power. They used
Capstone micro turbines that spun magnets in a stator. One system
was installed to power grow lights in a green house to grow
tomatoes. The engine burned natural gas and the exhaust was ducted
into the green house. The software for the system powered down the
engine during the day and restarted when light levels were below
that required. The tomatoes grew like they were hydroponic or
better. Size more like grapefruit. I think this got lost when
Enerflex (a compressor packager) bought out Syntech. Re sold now to Tarpon
Electric and Instrumentation.
Dale Davies
The dutch used piped in CO2 to the green houses to enhance the
growth of flowers for sale to most of Europe. That is where the term
"green house gases" came from.
BTW CO2 is only a trace gas in the atmosphere. It is measured down
in the parts per million.
Paul Lamar
You may correct me if I am wrong, I think it went like this: The
mouthpiece EPA was trying to legislate fuel consumption to the Auto
industry that caused an uproar by saying that is not possible.
Then as a countermeasure, instead of dictating what goes in, the approach
was changed to dictating to what comes out of the engine. Since the product
is essentially CO2 and H2O CO2 was chosen to be limited. In order to
be plausible it was declared a pollutant which it is not. We all and
even the EPA knows that, except the population at large with the
help of the IPCC and other opportunists like Al Gore.
Nature would not have a basic and fundamental building stone to be a
pollutant and harmful.
Rolf
I was told by one of the power division guys at Syntech that they had put
some in English double decker buses as an experiment. Supposedly used only 5
Imp gallons per day. The Capstone engines ran and charged batteries quietly
during extended stops at the ends of routes. The battery voltage would drop
some during the run and then be back up by the time they had to go again.
Could have been BS as if it worked that good you would think it would have
been used much more. The Capstone micro turbines used an air bearing which may
have been a problem that hindered development further.
Dale Davies
Sounds like BS to me. Those small turbine are as bad or worse than one pound of fuel
for each 746 watts. It all depends on how far they went in one day. If they only went
3 block I might buy it :)
Paul Lamar
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