OK we've had a few discussions on alternative fuels now, so its time
for a round-up. LPG with diesel 33/66% gives more power and less
particulate emissions and is rebatable at tax time(in Aus). Weight
restrictive on A/C. A good power increase for lower powered diesels
without up sizing cubes and I'm looking at it for my purposes. But
what Hasn't been clarified is the effect of H2O on the combustion
reaction, we've had to and fro's blah blah but if it will allow
increases in range by allowing LOP due to better combustion in
rotaries why should we not investigate it as another advantage of
the no valve arrangement. Paul has been obvious in his opposition to
H2Oas a pure fuel supply, but what as a supplement. Weight and range
benefit balanced. If I was to Fly from here to Perth, 2500+ Kms
could I do it with 1 or 2 stops. BTW at our local fuel station we
can now buy 100 octane unleaded 10% ethanol, it is supplied for the
speedway nearby.
I was watching some nascar and at the bottom of the screen they
were proclaiming ethanol as the first anti-nock/detonation, NOW
IT'S BACK. could those more enlightened "please explain". Oh could
you also elaborate on the weight/volume/calorific/octane theory for complete
clarity please. a/f is measured weight for weight not volume of
fuel/weight (of air). I'm sure someone Knows the answer, if not we can
work it out by debate. I do have Chemistry knowledge and need the
scientific figures.
yours hopefully
Graeme Riley
In addition to half the range and all the other H2O drawbacks it is
half the power. That is a direct result of it gaseous form. It is
hard the get enough H2O gas in the combustion chamber to generate
the power the rotary is capable of on ordinary gasoline. It is a
fundamentally impossible.
Now if you wish to use liquid hydrogen don't expect me to be within
half a mile :)
To even discuss alternatives to gasoline is to distract attention
from the real issue. There is plenty of gasoline in the world and
there is no real problem burning it. It is only necessary to drill
for it. The gasoline and CO2 controversy was manufactured by
Democrat liars seeking absolute political power.
Paul Lamar
I'm right there with you Paul. The question I'm really trying to ask
is will small amounts of Hydrogen ( as would be supplied by an
onboard generator) added to the combustion mixture Produce any
significant economy returns. I'm not suggesting replacing gasoline,
we have been down that road.What I am wondering is if combustion
supplementation with H2 and O wil 1/ improve combustion and 2/
increase range by virtue of milage increase minus extra weight
penalty. Will enrichment have any known benefit to the combustion
efficiency. H2 fuel alone is definately a catalyst for disaster ,Oh
the Humanity,what I want to know is wether low level continuous
production for combustion completeness will enhance the range of a
gasoline powered engine. That is can I produce more efficient power
using the combination than by using gasoline alone, a range
extender if you will. I have no intention of storing H2 in an
aircraft, that lesson has been learnt, and I have no desire to
replicate the Hindenberg on any scale.
Graeme Riley
I don't know but I doubt it. I have no desire to build one and test it.
Paul Lamar
A small amount of propane or CNG added to the intake of a diesel engine
produces a large reduction in emissions and a power increase. A noticable
reduction of exhaust smoke readily visible. It seems to act like a catalyst in
the combustion. The H2+O generator "may" work in a similar manner on gasoline
engines. I am scepticle, but technology is bringing some neat stuff out. Time
will tell.
Dale Davies
Wow those figures are amazing Jean, thanks for supplying them, shame the vid
didn't work, It would be interesting to see. How much gas does it supply
litres/minute. what is the weight of your system? was the computer
interfacing a big issue? any more details would be most welcome
Thank you also Dale, I am thinking that ethanol is less dense than
gasoline hence the higher fuel burn, to improve endurance extra fuel
could be carried due to its light weight, but tank size will be
limiting. Do you think raising compression will allow gasoline burn
rates?. Maybe Dave could have used ethanol at Reno, yeeeer haah,
special racin' juice!!! High power with charge cooling.
-- Graeme Riley
Greame,i did cruise steady at 50 mph and with a V!0 6.8 liters i was doing 7.5 mpg
with the RV of 30ft class B for 180 milles from Pompano to Key Largo almost on the
turnpike and them when i switch with the HHO generator i jump over 10.2...3 and i
burn 1.5"deep of water om my 1 gallons reservoir on this 180 milles ,the engine seams
to run smoother and more power it supply about 2 liters per minutes which is not very
much and i will increase by adding an other generator and taking a check valve
between the generator and the main tank.I will take a better video on the system next
time
Jean
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