Subject: Fwd: Re: First Flight - Turbo Rotary Velocity N17010
From: rotaryeng
Date: 6/11/2012, 5:33 PM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box


and you  moron democrats don't do that?

Paul


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Subject: Re: First Flight - Turbo Rotary Velocity N17010
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 10:06:03 -0600
From: Matthew Prather <ezeflierid@gmail.com>
To: rotaryeng <rotaryeng@earthlink.net>

It's funny (or, at least ironic) you're worried about hurting
someone's feelings with a little honest critique when you're the one
that calls people names when you disagree with them personally -
calling them "watermelons" or "stupid".

The FAA and EAA both have published recommendations on how to conduct
test operations on new or modified aircraft.  I doubt I could improve
on them except by pointing out ways in which there were departures
from the recommendations - which is what I did.


Matt-

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM, rotaryeng <rotaryeng@earthlink.net> wrote:
private

write it up as guide lines for a first preparation or pre first flight
check list.


On 06/10/2012 11:15 AM, Ezeflierid wrote:
Whatever.

There were some aspects of his first flight report that showed lack of understanding or disregard for reasonable precaution. I disagree with patting him on the back and saying "good job".

For three reasons I don't want to see anyone die or get hurt doing experimental aviation.

The first is that I hate to see needless/senseless/preventable loss of life.

The second is that we (general aviation, experimental aviation) don't need bad press that would come from an accident. Such bad press makes the gov more likely to restrict our activities further, and makes it more expensive and difficult to get insurance.

And finally, I want to see people be successful so that we can have more examples of what works. When people have a bad experience with rotary engines often they remove the engine and switch to Continental or Lycoming, setting the rotary engine back. Or get fed up and sell the plane/project.

Recently compiled statistics show that first flights of experimental aircraft are largely responsible for their much higher accident rate than general aviation.

If you're serious about promoting rotary engines, you need to be serious about the activities of the players.  Not "nice."


Regards,

Matt-


On Jun 10, 2012, at 9:15 AM, rotaryeng <rotaryeng@earthlink.net> wrote:

PRIVATE
Not nice and uncalled for.





Glad your first flight didn't break anything.  I'll make a few comments from the comfort of my lazyboy...  For what they're worth.

- Why did make your first flight 10 years to the day after receiving your kit? That seems like a stunt unless you had been delaying the test schedule to get to that day.  Hopefully you didn't rush anything to be able to meet this schedule - increasing risk.

- Along those lines, surely you could have picked a time of day that didn't involve operating in 95 degree heat. Temps that high are challenging for both man and machine - possibly causing the elevated oil temps you observed. Why stack the deck against success...

- Test flights shouldn't involve concern about pattern altitude or traffic pattern or anything like that. The tower should give you clearance for unrestricted climb. 600 feet AGL is too low for maneuvering a new airplane unless you're pretty sure the airplane is on fire.

- Ideally, none of the flight controls should be fully actuated on the first flight, especially that close to the ground. Full rudder may be riskier than full aileron. If you're flying in the middle of the CG envelope, loss of control due to stall shouldn't be a serious concern.


Good luck with your future flights. Try to reduce your risk factors.


Matt-




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