Subject: New Megasquirt mother board rotary MC9S12C64
From: rotaryeng
Date: 7/19/2012, 8:07 AM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box


 I think I am running into limitations of the MC68HC908.
 I think I need another timer module for the dwell calcs.
 Since I am doing another board anyway I am thinking  putting a
  faster and better processor on it.

 Not much different in cost and some of the later Megasquirt asm
 programs will work. The same processor is used on the daughter card.
 However there is other stuff on the daughter card we don't need. GM
 stepper IAC control not needed. CANBus communications for interface
 with GPIO Board, IO Extender, or other devices.

 DIYautotune wants $199 for the daughter card but you still have to
 pay another $250 for the mother board.

 Why not? Just a few extra bucks for the processor. $10 total
 roughly. You can never have enough I/O.  http://tinyurl.com/755wdzh

 The MC9SC64 has no ROM in it. You flash the whole program in it.
 It has 64K flash and 4K RAM.

 Here is a list of feature.



 Paul Lamar

     I'm for the better processor.  Like you said, you can never have
 too    many I/O's... especially if you foresee integrating an EFIS, etc.

     Josh

     The software for that is already done. Both in the megasquirt
 and the PC.    Over the years a tremendous amount of work has been
 done. It pays to take advantage    of that.

     Paul Lamar

 G'day Paul, Josh
 I 'm totally out to lunch  when it comes to EFI but I have a few
    points/questions

    1. does an o2 sensor adjust the fuel to acheive clean burning ( to
    pass smog laws) or does it just give us a reading? This may foil our
    efforts to adjust AFR for lean burn and best power.

    2. if the sensor is clogged by solid lead accumulation, perhaps we
    could move the pick-up out of the direct airflow by placing it in
 a   recessed position or behind a shroud/deflector. this will still
  analyze the exhaust but protect it from lead accretion.   So I
 thought I would search to see if I could find a lead safe O2
 sensor and found this info. I reckon that this may mean more  to you
   Paul than I.

    http://www.factorypro.com/dyno/dyno_ec997,eddycurrent,mc,dynamometer.html.

    Also try the links at the bottom of the page.
    Maybe if we used a TPS that would shift AFR to best power at wot and
    best economy below 75%. Or perhaps different power maps as the
 race   boys use for power/economy modes. Back to you.    Graeme Riley

    1. Usually the O2 sensor system are set to stoichiometric or
 about 14.7:1 air fuel   ratio. It depends on what kind of smog you
 are talking about. If you are talking   about NOx yes this gives a
 low smog number but at a severe fuel burn penalty. Lean   burn high
 NOs gives a better BSFC. Long story but here is a bit about it. B.
 Bruce-Biggs. The War Against the Automobile. Dutton. 1977 book
 explains it the best.   Don't get me started :)

    2. They might be one to something.
    http://tinyurl.com/cps7v2o

    Paul Lamar

  1. If you're using a wideband O2 sensor, Megasquirt can adjust the
  fuel to any target AFR that you specify.  I believe you can even
  specify different AFRs in a MAP vs RPM table so that you can target
  different afr's in different situations.  If you're using the narrow
  band variety, it can target 14.7:1 only.  In either case, the AFR
  "seeking" function is optional.  You can have it just give the
  readout.

  2. I'm not sure if shielding the sensor would help with lead
  accumulation or not.  It would be interesting to see if it works.

  Josh

  The new chips  are surface mount and a lot smaller. I was never
 really fond of DB connectors for aircraft use anyway. Ten times
 easier to wire. What do you guys think of a smaller, lower cost
 board with these connectors?

  This board is 3.9 inches by 2.5 and is stackable. One rotor, two
 rotors, three rotors or four. The heat sink on the top will double
 as a spacer. In and out are separate. Input on the left and output
 on the right.

  Paul Lamar

 I've used those connectors for connecting signaling wires to controller
 panels.  They are much easier to connect than having to install pins
 in a DB connector.  You would have to be sure to secure the wires
 close to the connectors to avoid issues with metal fatigue at the connectors.
 The clamping devices in the connectors deform the wire raising a stress
 point.  If the wires are not secured close to the connections then
 vibration and flexing of the wire will lead to connection failure.
  DB connectors deal with this by securing the wires in the back
 shell so that there is minimal stress on the connections.

  Mark LaPierre

 I have an AV8 Audio Flight Avionics device in my RV4 that uses these
 connectors. What they did is crimp  hollow connector male pin on the
 end of the wire and insert that into heat shrink tubing. That
 eliminates the stress concentration. Basically the same as the pins
 in a DB connector. In fact they are the same male crimp pins bought
 in bulk.

 http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/dsubs/d_solder.html

 Paul Lamar


 I have used similar in plant situations. Usually there they supply ones with
insulation similar to regular blade, ring and fork stake-ons. They work great
as the wires frey, break and are a pain to get into the socket so you can
clamp them. Small cost of a bag or box is more than offset by peace of mind.

Dale Davies


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