Henry Nee came up with a great idea. If we standardize on a spreed sheet
format for
the mixture map we can share (even across programs). Yours and mine.
This is the megasquirt format.
It is broken down into 8 RPM's and 8 manifold pressures.
Usually EFI programmers interpolate between these values.
Keven, Please do this. It will help other people greatly.
The idea is to be able to dump the table to a PC through the USB and
edit
it in the
PC as necessary. Then reload it back into the chip.
This is how it is done in Megasquirt.
These are median values so they can go down to zero and up to 255 as
necessary.
They are also a function of the injector used. If you find that the
values
are all on
the high side you could go up on the injection pressure or use larger
injectors.
Same vice versa.
Tracy uses two staged injectors per rotor so there could be one table
for
each
injector. The tables only require 65 bytes of flash memory each.
I am using one computer per rotor.
Paul Lamar
Paul,
You said earlier that the rotary typically uses a fixed 22 deg BTC firing
arrangement with both plugs firing simultaneously- are the turbo guys
using
this setting as well?
Normally when using higher boost levels, the timing is retarded several
degrees as boost pressure increases. I was thinking that my timing table
would have a few more lines than standard to allow for this. As pressures
go above standard i.e. 31 inches, the timing would progressively be
retarded. I have read in more than one place that using as little as 8
psi
of boost in racing engines requires the timing to be retarded to as
little
as 5 degrees BTC. At 8000 RPM this doesn't give much time to burn the
fuel/air charge, but this setting is selected to prevent pre-ignition.
Any thoughts?
Kevin Alderman
As far as I know they do. They may retard. Are you doing a turbo? It
has
it's advantages if one plug goes out.
Well what ever you do keep the ign and inj tables the same so others can
use them.
I am going to keep it simple and let the CAS fire the 2nd gen ignition
directly.
If the computer fails the engine will still run using a small tube into
the
intake with a needle valve from a header tank. Worked for the wright
brothers :)
"The Wright Brothers 1903 aircraft piston engine fuel flowed through a
small metal fuel line from the high mounted tank to the engine. The fuel
dripped into a flat, enclosed pan that sits on the top of the engine.
The
floor of the pan was hot because it sat over the hot engine cylinders.
Air
was drawn into the pan through the air intake, because of the action of
the
pistons. The combination of air being drawn over the fuel and the heat
of
the floor of the pan caused the gasoline to evaporate."
"The fuel flow to the engine was adjusted while the aircraft was waiting
on
the launch rail. When the engine was running as fast and smooth as
possible the aircraft was ready for launch. The pilot had a control
lever
which was connected to a cut-off valve to stop the engine at the end of
the
flight. The brothers had no throttle or engine control during the 1903
flights. The Wright "carburetor" and intake system had no moving parts.
Without the moving parts, the brothers engine ran at just one speed
throughout the flights of 1903."
http://www.rotaryeng.net/simple-cheap-555.html
Klaus set that up recently and he found it works much to his surprise. No
carb no
nothing, nada :)
Paul Lamar
I was planning to add another sensor to the factory CAS, 90 degrees
from
the first. Separate boards will read each signal and fire each rotor-
similar to what you are doing. I have 3 boards- identical except the
third
is equipped specifically to output to Android software. The third
board is
even bluetooth capable, so I dont even have to use usb if I dont want
to.
The OEM CAS turns half engine speed. It has 2 tits on top, and 24
teeth on
bottom. The sync signal will be firing signal for rotor 1, and RPM
will be
read from the 12 tooth count off of the bottom wheel. Count to 12,
start
over. See how long it took. Do it again.
The third board is capable of running both rotors if need be, and can
be
programmed to read all of the same inputs and give the same outputs as
board 1 and 2, again redundancy. The switching might be interesting to
design, but one step at a time.
The programming for each board will essentially be the same, it is
just a
matter of switching over the units in the air when everything else is
going
wrong.
Paul, after you get your boards going, you could port them to the board
that I have and read them on any android tablet. I am going to work on
the
EFI part first, and then port the output to the Android board so that I
can
read it on my tablet. After I get it working, I can send the code and
info
to the group so that any of us can do it. If I can get it to work, this
board could be wired to read the output of Tracys computer and log
everything to a tablet that we can use while we fly to see what is
going
on. Everything that Tracys computer is reading, as well as everything
it
is
saying to the engine too. If my system works as planned, I will be
able to
use the touch screen (in calm air!) to alter the engine while I am
flying.
Kevin Alderman
I just got my board to blink an LED :)
Written in BASIC no less. It blinks at the rate of just over 1.5
seconds
due to the
built in BASIC delay routine in the test program.
BTW I have decided to determine the RPM by accumulating a count on one
of
the
internal timers. If I divide the 10 Mhz (10,000,000) osc clock by 100 I
get 100K. The
internal timer divides that again by 12 giving me a count of 8333 CPS.
At 2000 RPM or 33.333 Hz the 22 degrees BTDC passes every .03 seconds.
So
the 8 bit
count is 8333 x 0.03 seconds is 249. Just about the 255 limit of the 8
bit
counter.
At 8000 RPM or 133.3 Hz or .0075 msec the count would be 8333 X .0075
or
62.
In other words the RPM is updated once per rev. Upon TDC the counter is
read and
reset to start counting over and the current RPM number is placed in
storage for use
by routine that looks up the required injector pulse width in the
table.
There is not much more to the simple program as I will generate the
pulse
width in
simple hardware. The injectors will also fire at 22 degrees BTDC more
or
less.
That should give plenty of time to send engine data like MAP, RPM,
injector pulse
width and intake air temperature out the USB port to Kevin's computer.
Once you know the injector pulse widths you know fuel flow so if you
have
a GPS
module you can calculate real ground speed and real miles per gallon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NMEA_0183
"NMEA 0183 is a combined electrical and data specification for
communication between
marine electronic devices such as echo sounder, sonars, anemometer,
gyrocompass,
autopilot, GPS receivers and many other types of instruments. It has
been
defined by,
and is controlled by, the U.S.-based National Marine Electronics
Association."
........time.usec...lat............long.....alt ..heading ....speed..
etc....
$GPRMC,081836,A,3751.65,S,14507.36,E,000.0,360.0,130998,011.3,E*62
See GPRMC attachment.
Paul Lamar
Sounds good Paul. Are you using the 555 timer to generate the pulse
width?
If so, how are you varying the LC in this circuit to change the timing
and
pulse?
Kevin Alderman
Yes. The CMOS 555. I ordered the wrong DAC. So I hope I ordered the
right
one this
morning. It will arrive tomorrow so by tomorrow night I will know more.
There are a
zillion of these things with no two alike. I know the CMOS 555 is OK.
The
beauty of
it is the 555 can trigger the injector FETs directly. The CMOS 555 has a
pin that
controls the pulse width. It is very precise. You store an 8 bit value
in
the DAC
through one port and then trigger the 555s. Two 555s. One for each
injector. The DAC
output goes to pin 5 on the 555. CPU makers ought to build these into
the
chip.
Another idea years ahead of its time :)
Paul Lamar
I wonder if it would make sense to run an engine full throttle (WOT) and
not activate the fuel injectors for some revolutions.
For example you could go WOT on takeoff and fly with the injectors only
fireing every second revolution.
I think this might have advantages, like a reduction of pumping losses,
or
additional rotor cooling from the charge flow.
Zoltan
Sounds about equivalent to the "displacement on demand" type engines
out there these days. It would be an interesting experiment for sure.
Josh
Displacement on demand engines leave the valves closed on the dead
cylinders.. Reduces the pumping losses - the air in the cylinder is
compressed and allowed to expand, but doesn't suffer the loss of
rushing through the ports. To do something like this on a rotary I
believe you'd need to add an exhaust valve of some sort.
Matt-
Paul,
Years ago there were two brothers from Venezuela with a Cozy powered by two
Suzuki Swift engines that were Siamesed together. They didn't share the
same prop, but instead used two counter-rotating props. The prop shafts
shared the same centerline. In cruise, they could shut down one engine and
greatly reduce the fuel burn. I don't see why this idea couldn't be
applied to the rotary using two 13b engines. It would require the use of
belt drives. I believe Wankel GMBH developed one along these lines they
called the Wankel Twin-pack. (discussed in your YouTube video) I always
thought that would make a great package for a larger plane if someone
wanted to spend the time and money to work out all the details.
Mark
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