Subject: Recent flight from Everett to Medford
From: rotaryeng
Date: 8/30/2012, 12:17 PM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box

 This week I flew my RV-4/13BREW from Everett Wa.  to MedfordOre.
and back.  Headwinds on the way down were brisk- 30 kts at 8500
feet onthe way down, but 35 kt tailwind on the way back.  The
engine ran flawlessly but theplane is slow- true airspeed was
110 kts at 19.5 manifold pressure,5600 rpm oiltemp 161 and
coolant 170, fuel flow around 8 gpm.

My prop is a three blade Catto, 72 diax 88 pitch.  For one, the
plane is over propped.  I'm going to have CraigCatto cut it down
a little during the winter maintenance.  The other thing is
that the cooling scoop is effective, but way too draggy, so I'm
going to re-do it this winter.

Another issue is my left brake line- I"ve melted it twice. It's
plastic, and although it is shielded from the exhaust pipes and
insulated with fiberfrax, I think that heated air from the
exhaust pipes is being forced out the opening in the cowl where
the brake line goes to the gear leg.  That's where I have found
the line melted.

I want to put a reverse scoop near the exhaust
pipes to get the heated air out of the cowl, and to replace the
brake line with stainless steel.  Everything inside the cowl
except for the brake line looks OK- I wrapped and shielded
everything - wires, coolant, fuel,and oil lines.  There are
three NACA ducts bringing air into the cowl to cool the
alternator, the coils and exhaust pipes, and an exhaust eductor
to suck air through the cowl and over the muffler.


  Comments?

  Brian Trubee

  Couple of questions.
  EGT?
  Size of throttle body?
  Is the engine ported?

  The manifold pressure is very low.

  Is the air filter plugged? :)
  Are you getting cold air?

  8 GPH is 50 pounds per hour at 6.25 pounds per gallon. At a BSFC of .47
  leaned that
  is only 106 HP. At a fuel burn of .5 that is only 100 HP. If it is really
  rich and
  the BSFC is .55 and that is only 90 HP.

  You need a p-port Brian :)

  Paul Lamar


  Brian,

  As some of you know my Wheeler will be a blend of certified parts and
  experimental parts. I noticed the issues with the nylon brake lines long
  ago. I went to NAPA and bought (8) 12" standard brake lines that go on
  trucks from the hard line to the wheels. I also bought a 25 foot roll of
  3/32 brake tubing, 24 double flare fittings, and a double flare tool.
 Total
  for all of this was $170.00. After I got back to my plane, within 2 hours
 I
  had the brake lines made up from the master cylinders to the wheels. Galv
  steel line inside the cockpit, 12 inch flex at the master cylinders, at
 the
  turn into the wings (mine are removable) one more at the flex point of the
  gear leg, and the last one at the wheel. I don't anticipate melting my
  brake lines. This is the way my Viking was done, and I had no issues with
  my 1968 Viking until I blew the Continental up.

  My fuel and oil system will be similar. The materials are inexpensive, and
  the labor is minimal. Cheap insurance.



  Kevin Alderman

  brian,
                This is the blind leading the blind as I have yet to depart
  the earth, but tied to a tree I get MP of 22 at 5000 rpm and from memory
 24
  at 5600 rpm.  Where are you reading it from?  Neil.


  It's been a while since I did any static runs on the ground. I"d just be
  guessing at
  this point to give some numbers for static running.

  Brian Trubee


 Brian,

 You stated "...my EGT temps- they show up to 2000 at times- and above
 1800 most of the time in cruise."  I too experienced very high EGT's
 in excess of 1800* when I was using a muffler that was too
 restrictive.  Also, power was way down, but it was quiet.  ;-)  The
 high temps ended up damaging the o-rings and I had to rebuild the
 engine.  Since replacing the muffler the egt's have dropped down to
 1600 - 1650* range and power is much improved.  I suggest you examine
 and modify or replace your current muffler.

 Mark


The best muffler for a rotary is 3 to 8 feet long about 4 to 5 inches in diameter.
That gives the lowest aero drag for a given silencing. Lowest frontal area. Mufflers
work by the exhaust gases rubbing on the metal surface losing kinetic energy to skin
friction and losing heat to the metal surfaces. The cooler the gases in a pipe the
lower the gas speed. When high speed gas exits a pipe there is a sudden expansion
that causes the noise. The idea here is to cool the gases before they get to the end
of the inner pipe.

The inner tube is best done in .045 Inconnel but there is a trade off with thickness.
If you make the inner tube 2 inches in diameter and use 321 SS make it .065 thick
with a bunch of holes drilled in it. The outer tube can be .030" thick 321 SS as it
will always run cooler. Also make the front of the muffler look like this.

Don't drill any holes for the first 8 to 10 inches. The slip stream will blow cooling
air down between the coaxial tubes. At the back end make the inner tube 6 inches
shorter than the outer tube. That will act as an ejector to draw cooling air between
the two tubes. Patent applied for:)


 A 2 inch diameter SS tube .065 thick 72 inches long will weigh about 8.8
 pounds.

 A 4 inch diameter SS tube .030 thick 72 inches long will weigh about 7.50
 pounds.

 Here is a dwg.

 A 2.5 inch inner tube and a 5 and 1/2 inch outer tube may give a little
 less back
 pressure for a weight trade off.

 Paul Lamar


 Paul,

If it is inside the cowl, drag is insignificant.  You forgot to consider
the "UGLY FACTOR".  Maybe you could put fins on it and tell everyone it is
a torpedo.  ;-)  Personally, I don't want an 8' pipe hanging on the belly
of my a/c.  As I recall, the perfect exhaust system is 105" in length.  But
I don't see anyone flying with that type of system either.

IMHO, the best muffler is a turbo.

Mark

Agreed on the turbo.

It looks better on flat bottom RV's.:)

Paul Lamar

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