Subject: My book
From: rotaryeng
Date: 9/3/2012, 9:40 PM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box


  Paul,

  Yes, it's out in paperback on Amazon.com.
  I haven't found a professional narrator I like yet though. The book
  is very movie-like with many characters who appear in  four time
  periods, ancient to present. Interspersed within the story are some
  flying scenes you would enjoy. The book looks at time travel from
  the viewpoint of both metaphysics as well as astrophysics. Time is a
  place is the underlying precept. Could be just another hare brained
  idea though:

  Rotary progress:

  I'm  making up the Aluminum housing and PSRU mounting plate out of
  2024 Al. now. I found that I will have to have to make a new sun
  gear combination, splined shaft, to get a robust connection to the
  drive spline. I'm still not completely convinced on the method for a
  torsional resonator absorber. Mistral used springs and Tracy uses
  rubber. I'll have to make a choice, run it and then see what
  happens. I worry about the increase cycle rate and durability that
  springs would encounter. Having the prop spinning a the same rpm as
  the rotor could potentially  be a good or bad thing. I'm beginning
  to understand there is no one-off solution. Different propeller
  weights and materials will resonate at different frequencies.

  Cheers

  Doug

  Springs give no damping.
  Experience with two entirely different rotary engine and coupler
  designs and with different displacements, both resonating just below
   2000 RPM more or less, acting identically, I conclude there is no
  solution. Idle the engine below 2000 RPM and forget about it. After
  all the prop is turning at 700.

  I gave the book to Robin.

  Paul Lamar

 I believe there are some clutch hub springs damped with rubber for heavy
 trucks. How about injecting some silicone in the springs for damping?

 Dale Davies
 -
 Trucks have springs in the clutch for taking off initially. After I let
 the clutch out and get moving, I dont use it again until I need to stop. If
 you have ever driven one of these things, you will notice that if you are
 not soft and gentle with the application of the clutch (letting off the
 pedal) the thing starts to buck like a bronco. The springs tend to add
 energy to the system, which leads up to boing boing boing and an
 embarassing start to the trip. I would think that springs in the backing
 plate could also add energy to the system and ultimately cause a
 catastrophic failure. Imagine sitting on the taxiway at idle waiting on
 your turn to go. Each firing of the rotor causes an impulse that is
 transferred to the springs and then ultimately to the prop. Your engine and
 prop are happy, then along comes a brisk gust from behind (you are on the
 taxiway pointed downwind). This gust will load the prop and compress the
 springs. At the same time the rotor impulse subsides, the gust stops, and
 the energy built up in the spring gets transferred to the prop, only this
 time the prop tries to outrun the engine. Now here comes another rotor
 impulse, the engine quickly catches and passes the prop since it has
 virtually no load at the moment, and the cycle repeats. I can see a
 scenario like aileron flutter- a few short seconds and boom its over.


 The closest thing I can think of to the problem that is being discussed is
 a tractor and bushhog. At idle with the PTO in gear there is considerable
 back and forth when each cylinder fires. Rev up the tractor and it goes
 away. We solve this by using an over-run clutch. This little device lets
 the bush hog outrun the tractor and then the tractor gets to catch up. The
 engineering is sound, but for us I would be concerned with the prop
 overspeeding during a descent. Another alternative would be a constant
 pitch prop- at idle the prop could be set almost feathered for the most
 drag. At run up or takeoff, reduce to fine pitch. Lots of performance
 planes go to feather at loss of oil pressure, maybe someone with a CS prop
 could test this theory?

 I don't think we need to dampen the system as much as just keep the prop
 behind the engine- i.e. under load.

 Another possible solution would be a belt drive with what would be a
 tensioner device like on your car. This little wheel keeps the belt tight,
 but also takes the shocks out of the system. For this reason I kind of like
 the Ross type of PSRU with the big belt. I have bulldozers with rubber
 tracks, so the technology is here to transfer the power from the engine to
 the prop effectively and reliably with a belt. If you look at many of the
 small helicopters, they have belt drives from the engine to the gear box.


I dont think the Ross is the belt driven unit, but I am sure you guys are
familiar with what I am referring to.


 Kevin Alderman



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