Subject: Hushpower autopsy
From: Paul lamar
Date: 9/8/2012, 5:53 AM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box



    We'll I finally got some time off to check out my airplane after the
    round trip from
    Everett to Medford. The heat cooked my left brake line, and I
    suspected the muffler
    had too much back pressure, so I resolved to investigate. Here's
    what I found when I
    removed my Hushpower from the airplane. There is way too much heat
    coming off my
    muffler- the powder coating on my engine mount is cooked near the
    exhaust pipes, even
    though I coverd them with fiberfrax and placed a SS heat sheild to
    cover the tubes
    from view of the exhaust. The muffler was making like a baby rattle
    so I cut it open
    and this stuff came out of the inlet side. I'll send more pictures
    of the innards.

    What I have is an RV-4 with the radiators and oil cooler hung
    underneath the plane in
    a scoop that is reminiscent of a P-51. I had the muffler submerged
    under the
    fuselage. I"m thinking that it would be better to have the exhaust
    pipes exit the
    side of the cowl, in a reverse scoop that would vent a huge amount
    of heat from the
    cowl. The muffler would be a straight 6 foot muffler like the one
    Paul outlined about
    a week ago. It would be mounted along the side of the fuselage. I
    hate to ruin the
    clean lines of an RV-4, but nothing would ruin it more than having a
    mechanical
    failure due to excessive exhaust heat bringing the plane down. My
    biggest worry about
    this rotary conversion is excessive exhaust heat and how to manage
    it effectively.

    Here is the muffler cut open. The red chunks are what is left of the
    melted
    insulation material between the perforated inner case and outer. The
    outer case
    showed signs of bulging. The perforated inner case was split on the
    seam closest to
    the camera. The inner cone material which is also perforated was
    mostly gone, but big
    chunks were still left inside the muffler and undoubtedly were
    causing some obstruction.

    Here's the split in the inner perforated case. Not real confidence
    inspiring.


    Crap that I shook out of my baby rattle/Hushpower muffler.


    Brian Trubee

    That will work out OK but I would put it on the bottom like Mike did.
    I think you could get the rad under the engine.

    Either that or use a narrower rad and put it next to the rad under
    the fuse.

    Paul Lamar


    I'd better take some time to think about it- running the exhaust
    under the fuselage,
    around engine mount tubes, near the coolant lines, near the
    radiator, making
    allowances for cooling duct considerations, etc, not to mention
    momentary cash flow
    situation etc. I'm inclined to just exit out the side of the cowl-
    makes all those
    considerations other than $ easy to address.

    Brian Trubee

    I am not sure you have enough room to do it this way but it is sort
    of what Mike
    wound up with. He had the advantage of his motor mount being further
    back. These are
    two inch tubes with 3 inch CL radius bends. If you have Wagner pipes
    the bend CL
    radius is bit tighter and the OD is 1 7/8" as I recall. Under the
    engines the tubes
    can be side by side. I'll modify the 3D for that.

    BTW we might make it up there next week. We will try to go from SFO
    to SEATAC
    on Monday. I put your number in my cell.

    Paul Lamar


    Here is what it looks like side by side under the engine.
    Perhaps it is possible to shorten the top pipe a bit more.
    That is the great thing about 3D. It is quicker than doing it with
    hardware.

    Paul Lamar

Paul,
Brian's engine's high EGTs are aggravated by the exhaust back pressure
and the added reversion from the side intake ports. The burn-rate
suffers with extra reversion.
You probably set advance by MBT. Do you see much difference in advance
between peripheral and side port engines?
Have you tried to install the pressure sensors in both the intake and
exhaust to analyze the differential when the ports are in overlap?

What is response time those sensors shown in some earlier posts?

I would like to try to use them in conjunction with TFX's 330KHz
combustion pressure sensors for intake and exhaust tuning.
Attached shows actual theoretical pressure changes with different
ignition advance.
http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll129/bbordes/?action=view&current=combustionlate.jpg
<http://s287.photobucket.com/albums/ll129/bbordes/?action=view&current=combustionlate.jpg>
Barry


That would be interesting but we have not measured the pressure diff.
What Mazda did in that regard is all we have to go on.

Paul Lamar
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