Subject: PSRU fixes
From: rotaryeng
Date: 9/16/2012, 10:19 AM
To: AAAA Put this in the To box


Barry,

Before we go too much further, we need a PSRU  that can handle 500+hp.
We've already had flywheels [flex  plate] disintegrate and my
input shaft broke the
lock pin.  I would  consider installing a turbo, but in my opinion, the
psru is the weakest  link.

Mark
P-port 20b

My last trip to Tracy's we discussed  this. His recommendation  is to use
an aftermarket aluminum flywheel  and attach the PSRU input to that. His
latest iteration of the PSRU will  attach to this flywheel easily he
 says.

As far as the lock pin, that  would take more thought. Drilling it out
and installing a larger diameter  pin will increase the shear of the pin
itself but at a cost to the strength  of the shaft itself.

Kevin Alderman

Just install two lock pins  90 degrees to each other.

We did that on Dave's turbo Reno  racer.

When I get home I will send a dwg. We have been around and  around on
this. I am surprised Tracy did not mention it or start doing  it.

Paul Lamar


Other than the weight, I take it  there was no problem with the flywheel
Dave installed?
Re:  the pins: is it possible that the pins were transfering the power
 and
the  pin bores were tight and the spline clearance was allowing the power
to
try  to flex the pins?

Dale Davies

Dave has reported no  problem so far with the steel flywheel.

BTW If you can't handle putting  two pins in the sun gear send it to me
    and
I
will do
it. I have done  a couple already,

Paul Lamar

Is Dave Leondard racing at Reno  again this year?
Chris Cosman

I don't think so.

Paul  Lamar


To All,
While we are addressing PRSU issue's, here is  another one. I'm
mounting my prop extension and prop; In doing so I have  found
that my prop tips move about 1". Is this too much back-lash?  Seems
like I remember hearing that it should be around 1/4". Any  suggestions
would be appreciated . Thanks!
Frank Clementi

Mine  moves about an inch as well. Next time I go to the hangar I will
measure  it.

Paul Lamar

Paul,

Tracy recently told me the backlash  should be between 3/8 and 5/8".

Mark

I'll go out today and see  what mine is.
Frank, What gear box do you have? 2.17 or 2.85?

Paul  Lamar


doesn't the amount it moves depend on the length of the blade?

What length blades are y'all using?

Rich

Yes but it is a minor factor. Most props are 68 to 72 inches in diameter.

Paul Lamar


    FYI - I'm running a 76" 3-blade prop.

    Mark

    Yes but you have a variable pitch prop and a 350 HP p-port 3 rotor :)
    How much back lash?

    Paul Lamar

    Paul,

 Stand by...I'll be checking it on Friday when I'll be at the airport next.

 What are your thoughts on the 8 bolts that hold the ring gear to the
 housing?  They appear to be 1/4 - 28 bolts.

 Mark

 Do they hold the bulkhead that holds the ring gear to the housing ?  :)

 There are two schools of thought on that. One says you need a bit of slop
 in the ring
 gear and the other says mount it solid.

 I don't know if Tracy tried mounting it solid but that would be what I
 would try
 first. The sun gear and planet gears are inherently self aligning. It
 might take a
 sleeve to mount the ring gear solid.

 The bolts are not a problem. A 1/4 inch bolt will take a lot of shearing.
 The bulkhead made from powered metal is a bit scary however :)

 I would also do away with the spline and bolt the planet carrier to the
 prop shaft.

 Paul Lamar

 Paul,

 I measured the endplay on my psru today... 3/4" at prop tips.  I'll discuss
 with Tracy to see if he recommends any new parts.

 I also fabbed up some new steel lines for the OMP.  The old ones were
 leaking slightly around the crimp clamps.  I feel much better about using
 the OMP now.

 Mark

 OMP Oil Metering Pump.

 BTW Barry, you should drive over and see Mark. He is in Austin.
 It is only 500 miles. Out here on the left coast that is a piece of cake:)

 I'll be driving to Fl in a couple of weeks so I hope to stop in and see you guys.

 Paul Lamar


 Paul,
 I wanted to make it to Austin for the F1 race in November but a young friend is
 getting married that weekend.....drats.
 Please stop by on your trip through to Florida.
 Barry


 I plan on it. I am going to stop in and see Richard Sohn as well and see how the one
 rotor engine is coming.

 http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html

 Paul Lamar

I'll be looking forward to your report of what you find when you visit
Richard.  I'll most likely be using a one rotor when I get my project
flying.

    _
  Mark LaPierre

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