Subject: Speaking of Libya
From: rotaryeng
Date: 11/1/2012, 4:45 PM
To: AAAArotaryeng


    There was a retired general on  Greta Van Susteren last night.

    Apparently there is a US force in North Africa. They had Predator drones
   over the
    scene almost immediately and they are no faster than a C172.

    As of 1 October 2008, it is the Air Force component of United States
   Africa Command
    (USAFRICOM), serves as the air and space component to U.S. Africa Command
   located at
    Stuttgart, Germany. In this capacity, Seventeenth Air Force is referred
   to as U.S.
    Air Forces Africa (AFAFRICA). 17 AF was inactivated in April 2012.

    Turns out there was a AC130 gun ship within a couple of hours of the
   consulate.
    Even if it had to fly from Stuttgart 1100 miles away C130 flying time
   would only be
    3 hours. Israel 873 miles 2.5 hours.

    What would be awesome is a converted Boeing KC-767 gun ship.
    That would get there in less than 2 hours from Stuttgart and 1.5 hours
   from Israel.
    In addition to the 105 mm cannon from the AC130 a 37 mm Gatling gun out
   of a A10
    could be installed. Poof the magic dragon hot breath blast :)

    The attack took 7 hours. Three 105 mm shells would have wiped out the
    attackers in a matter of seconds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H1uvmdAPoM

    Added to his other problems Obama is lousy commander in chief.

    Paul Lamar

   Paul,

   It maybe worse. They may have had Spectre gunship overhead or the Operator
   wouldn't have "painted" it.

   http://tinyurl.com/9m4l6fx

   If so is this Treason or just your run of the mill Impeachable Offense.
   IMHO the Intel / Military community might start spilling the beans soon,
   they must be livid....

   He left their brothers behind, and did not make the command call. What
   was he doing in that time-frame?

   Go to Beck's Blaze, Their is a picture of Obama and he looks awful, my
   antenna tells me something isn't right here...


   And now, a copy/paste of an email I sent to a Rabbi who is a friend of
   mine.....

   This today, please watch and listen the 12 minute video from a
   "Spec-Operator" that called "Rush".



 http://www.therightscoop.com/must-watch-rush-military-caller-says-beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt-obama-knew-about-benghazi-attack-ordered-no-response/

   This Bengazi mess is worse than Watergate, the dominant media will not
   touch it, my apologies to your sensibilities but they are so far in the
   tank for the Administration, they are derelict in their duties as the
   4th estate if you will and are complicit if not downright accomplices in
   this malfeasance. Some of the more "Legal-Eagle" conservative jurist
   have used the term Treasonous to describe what has happened, and they do
   not use these terms lightly....

   Listen to the Parent of one of the Seals here, what Biden said and a
   host of other things.

   Many despise "Beck" but his new News-Organization he has built in Texas
   is world class with stories no one is covering or has the gumption to
   touch ( BTW, he broadcast 24/7 on the web to 300,000 subscribers and is
   also now on Dish Network. I also hear his Company "The Blaze" now has
   400 employees strong from secretaries to full time writers, gum-shoes,
   etc etc.)



 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/explosive-benghazi-allegation-cia-told-to-stand-down-during-attack-3-urgent-requests-for-military-back-up-were-denied/



 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/joe-biden-to-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-did-your-son-always-have-balls-the-size-of-cue-balls/



 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/becks-emotional-response-to-bombshell-stand-down-libya-allegations-today-officially-is-the-day-that-i-no-longer-recognize-my-country/


   Pray for America

   Anthony Liberatore


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   Naval Air Station Sigonella

   NAS Sigonella is located in eastern Sicily approximately 16 km west of the
   city of
   Catania and approximately 24 km due south of Mount Etna, an active
   volcano. It
   occupies a tract of land at NATO Maritime Airfield Sigonella which is
   operated and
   hosted by the Italian Air Force. The U.S. has maintained a permanent
   presence at the
   activity since 1959. NAS Sigonella provides consolidated operational
   command and
   control, administrative, logistical and advance logistical support to U.S.
   and other
   NATO forces. In the discharge of its mission, NAS Sigonella is assisted by
   a number
   of tenant organizations and support units.

   The mission of US Forces at Sigonella, Rota, and Souda Bay is to provide
   Command
   Control and Logistics Support to US And NATO Operating Forces. These three
   facilities
   are undergoing a transformation from Maritime Patrol Airfields to
   Multi-role "Hubs"
   providing crucial air-links for USAF strategic airlift in support of
   CENTCOM and
   Africa Area contingency operations.

   The primary purpose of US Naval Air Station Sigonella is to provide
   consolidated
   operational, command and control, administrative, logistical and advanced
   logistical
   support to US and other Nato forces. NAS Sigonella is the major support
   element for
   US SIXTH Fleet Mediterranean. It is the strategic center of the
   Mediterranean. Recent
   political events in the strategic center of the Mediterranean and Near
   East have
   greatly increased operational requirements and there has been emergent
   mission tasking.

   NAS Sigonella supports a rotational VP squadron, an HC squadron, C-2, C-9,
   and C-130
   detachments, shore-based fleet aircraft, transient NATO aircraft and US
   Air Force
   transient aircraft. The Augusta Bay Port Facility provides fuel,
   ammunition and
   supplies to SIXTH Fleet combat and logistics support ships. The Niscemi
   Telecommunications Facility and Pachino Target Range also provide support
   to the
   Fleet. Additionally, this station is the routing point for trainsient
   fleet personnel
   snd fleet cargo movements thought Europe, Africa and Southwest Asia. There
   are
   currently about 2,930 active duty personnel, 1,250 Italian and American
   civilian
   personnel, and family members number about 3,200.

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   Three C130's on the ramp. Hard to tell if they are gun ships. They could
   be.

   The other four aircraft are antisubmarine turboprops based on the Lockheed
   Electra.
   You can clearly see the shadow of the magnetic anomaly sensors sticking
   out the back.


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   Features
   Originally designed as a land-based, long-range, anti-submarine warfare
   (ASW) patrol
   aircraft, the P-3C's mission has evolved in the late 1990s and early 21st
   century to
   include surveillance of the battlespace, either at sea or over land. Its
   long range
   and long loiter time have proved invaluable assets during Operation Iraqi
   Freedom as
   it can view the battlespace and instantaneously provide that information
   to ground
   troops, especially U.S. Marines.

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   Paul Lamar


   The flight distance from Sigonella to Bengasi is about 300 miles.
   Less than an hour for a C130 gun ship.

   On Fox News Sunday Chris Wallace asked Senator Mark Warner D-VA on the
   senate
   intelligence board  a direct question about the armament on the drone over
   head the
   consulate.

   He refused to answer.

   It is no secret that Predator drones carry Hell fire missiles.

   Paul Lamar


  What good is a military force with the best technology known to man when
  you have a gutless leader who won't use them or even acknowledge the threat
  is there in the first place. The father of one of the Navy Seals that
  bravely gave his life fulfilling his personal commitment to himself, the
  Naval tradition and his country said it best. "Better to die with honor
  than to live as a coward". The Navy usually has an aircraft carrier in the
  region stationed in what we affectionately call the Med, "you know, a big
  ship with planes on it," the president knows about these, which could have
  had an F-18 there in less than an hour which carries air to ground missiles
  that could have been laser targeted on the ground or by air. There was no
  excuse for those guys not to have support other than they were written off
  as expendable by the highest levels of our government, period!!!!!!
  James Ealey


 Does the timeline here differ from your understanding of the events
 that took place?

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444620104578008922056244096.html

 During which part of this should we have been shooting missiles?  And
 at what?  The individual attackers?  I might see a gunship being
 useful.


 Regards,

 Matt-

 The enemy mortar team that killed several US ex seals was being designated by a laser
  by one of the seals on a annex roof. If they had scrambled the gun ship when
 this whole thing started I doubt it would have lasted 7 hours. They were less than an
 hour away. One warning shot from a 105 mm C130 gun ship cannon or a burst of Gatling
 gun fire would be all it took. The bad guys would be heading for cover. The gun ships
 are very accurate when coupled with laser designators. If the Predator drones were
 not carrying Hell Fires missiles that in and of itself is incompetence.

 Mortor fire will also show up on a Predator drone infrared sensor.

 The chief engineer on the Predator is a rotor head, friend of mine and he was on here
 in the early days when they first decided to equip them with Hell Fire missiles. I
 got a tour of the base and here are some pictures I took
 on final from just outside the base on private property. I was not allowed to take
 pictures on the base.

 What is amazing is they knew right way from the Predator video that the enemy was
 using  RPG rocket launchers. Not something your average out raged enemy citizen has
 under his bed. At that point they should have known it was an organized attack.

 http://youtu.be/n0hGQtCPsCY

 It is just plain battle incompetence at best. And lots worse probably.

 Obama can't bring himself to kill his brothers and miss all those virgins in heaven :)

 Paul Lamar

Fun, but, did the link to the Wall Street Journal account of the
Banghazi attack differ from your understanding of how the events
unfolded?


Matt-

I did not read the wall street journal. I will shortly upload another video that
explains it minute by minute. You got to start watching Fox News Matt. You are
highly misinformed.

Paul Lamar Dump the Dems

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