Subject: Speaking of Libya
From: rotaryeng
Date: 11/1/2012, 8:02 PM
To: AAAArotaryeng


There was a retired general on  Greta Van Susteren last night.

Apparently there is a US force in North Africa. They had Predator drones
 over the
scene almost immediately and they are no faster than a C172.

As of 1 October 2008, it is the Air Force component of United States
 Africa Command
(USAFRICOM), serves as the air and space component to U.S. Africa Command
 located at
Stuttgart, Germany. In this capacity, Seventeenth Air Force is referred
 to as U.S.
Air Forces Africa (AFAFRICA). 17 AF was inactivated in April 2012.

Turns out there was a AC130 gun ship within a couple of hours of the
 consulate.
Even if it had to fly from Stuttgart 1100 miles away C130 flying time
 would only be
3 hours. Israel 873 miles 2.5 hours.

What would be awesome is a converted Boeing KC-767 gun ship.
That would get there in less than 2 hours from Stuttgart and 1.5 hours
 from Israel.
In addition to the 105 mm cannon from the AC130 a 37 mm Gatling gun out
 of a A10
could be installed. Poof the magic dragon hot breath blast :)

The attack took 7 hours. Three 105 mm shells would have wiped out the
attackers in a matter of seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H1uvmdAPoM

Added to his other problems Obama is lousy commander in chief.

Paul Lamar

 Paul,

 It maybe worse. They may have had Spectre gunship overhead or the Operator
 wouldn't have "painted" it.

 http://tinyurl.com/9m4l6fx

 If so is this Treason or just your run of the mill Impeachable Offense.
 IMHO the Intel / Military community might start spilling the beans soon,
 they must be livid....

 He left their brothers behind, and did not make the command call. What
 was he doing in that time-frame?

 Go to Beck's Blaze, Their is a picture of Obama and he looks awful, my
 antenna tells me something isn't right here...


 And now, a copy/paste of an email I sent to a Rabbi who is a friend of
 mine.....

 This today, please watch and listen the 12 minute video from a
 "Spec-Operator" that called "Rush".




http://www.therightscoop.com/must-watch-rush-military-caller-says-beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt-obama-knew-about-benghazi-attack-ordered-no-response/

 This Bengazi mess is worse than Watergate, the dominant media will not
 touch it, my apologies to your sensibilities but they are so far in the
 tank for the Administration, they are derelict in their duties as the
 4th estate if you will and are complicit if not downright accomplices in
 this malfeasance. Some of the more "Legal-Eagle" conservative jurist
 have used the term Treasonous to describe what has happened, and they do
 not use these terms lightly....

 Listen to the Parent of one of the Seals here, what Biden said and a
 host of other things.

 Many despise "Beck" but his new News-Organization he has built in Texas
 is world class with stories no one is covering or has the gumption to
 touch ( BTW, he broadcast 24/7 on the web to 300,000 subscribers and is
 also now on Dish Network. I also hear his Company "The Blaze" now has
 400 employees strong from secretaries to full time writers, gum-shoes,
 etc etc.)




http://www.theblaze.com/stories/explosive-benghazi-allegation-cia-told-to-stand-down-during-attack-3-urgent-requests-for-military-back-up-were-denied/




http://www.theblaze.com/stories/joe-biden-to-father-of-former-navy-seal-killed-in-benghazi-did-your-son-always-have-balls-the-size-of-cue-balls/




http://www.theblaze.com/stories/becks-emotional-response-to-bombshell-stand-down-libya-allegations-today-officially-is-the-day-that-i-no-longer-recognize-my-country/


 Pray for America

 Anthony Liberatore


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 a number
 of tenant organizations and support units.

 The mission of US Forces at Sigonella, Rota, and Souda Bay is to provide
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 are undergoing a transformation from Maritime Patrol Airfields to
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 greatly increased operational requirements and there has been emergent
 mission tasking.

 NAS Sigonella supports a rotational VP squadron, an HC squadron, C-2, C-9,
 and C-130
 detachments, shore-based fleet aircraft, transient NATO aircraft and US
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 Three C130's on the ramp. Hard to tell if they are gun ships. They could
 be.

 The other four aircraft are antisubmarine turboprops based on the Lockheed
 Electra.
 You can clearly see the shadow of the magnetic anomaly sensors sticking
 out the back.


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 long range
 and long loiter time have proved invaluable assets during Operation Iraqi
 Freedom as
 it can view the battlespace and instantaneously provide that information
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 Paul Lamar


 The flight distance from Sigonella to Bengasi is about 300 miles.
 Less than an hour for a C130 gun ship.

 On Fox News Sunday Chris Wallace asked Senator Mark Warner D-VA on the
 senate
 intelligence board  a direct question about the armament on the drone over
 head the
 consulate.

 He refused to answer.

 It is no secret that Predator drones carry Hell fire missiles.

 Paul Lamar


What good is a military force with the best technology known to man when
you have a gutless leader who won't use them or even acknowledge the threat
is there in the first place. The father of one of the Navy Seals that
bravely gave his life fulfilling his personal commitment to himself, the
Naval tradition and his country said it best. "Better to die with honor
than to live as a coward". The Navy usually has an aircraft carrier in the
region stationed in what we affectionately call the Med, "you know, a big
ship with planes on it," the president knows about these, which could have
had an F-18 there in less than an hour which carries air to ground missiles
that could have been laser targeted on the ground or by air. There was no
excuse for those guys not to have support other than they were written off
as expendable by the highest levels of our government, period!!!!!!
James Ealey


  Does the timeline here differ from your understanding of the events
  that took place?

  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444620104578008922056244096.html

  During which part of this should we have been shooting missiles?  And
  at what?  The individual attackers?  I might see a gunship being
  useful.


  Regards,

  Matt-

  The enemy mortar team that killed several US ex seals was being designated by a laser
by one of the seals on a annex roof. If they had scrambled the gun ship when
  this whole thing started I doubt it would have lasted 7 hours. They were less than an
  hour away. One warning shot from a 105 mm C130 gun ship cannon or a burst of Gatling
  gun fire would be all it took. The bad guys would be heading for cover. The gun ships
  are very accurate when coupled with laser designators. If the Predator drones were
  not carrying Hell Fires missiles that in and of itself is incompetence.

  Mortor fire will also show up on a Predator drone infrared sensor.

  The chief engineer on the Predator is a rotor head, friend of mine and he was on here
  in the early days when they first decided to equip them with Hell Fire missiles. I
  got a tour of the base and here are some pictures I took
  on final from just outside the base on private property. I was not allowed to take
  pictures on the base.

  What is amazing is they knew right way from the Predator video that the enemy was
  using  RPG rocket launchers. Not something your average out raged enemy citizen has
  under his bed. At that point they should have known it was an organized attack.

  http://youtu.be/n0hGQtCPsCY

  It is just plain battle incompetence at best. And lots worse probably.

  Obama can't bring himself to kill his brothers and miss all those virgins in heaven :)

  Paul Lamar

 Fun, but, did the link to the Wall Street Journal account of the
 Banghazi attack differ from your understanding of how the events
 unfolded?


 Matt-

 I did not read the wall street journal. I will shortly upload another video that
 explains it minute by minute. You got to start watching Fox News Matt. You are
 highly misinformed.

 Paul Lamar Dump the Dems



I insist on stories that actually name sources.  And the sources have
to be recognizable as experts in their field.  How could you not
insist on this?  If you don't, you're just consuming garbage?


Matt-

Whistle blowers  in the military and the government are risking their careers and
even jail to bring the story of Bengasi out in the open. Obama has absolute power and
if he finds out who it is and if he so wishes he can have them fired or court
martialed and jailed. Apparently this has already happened to high ranking military
officers that tried to act against orders. I am sure these people feel this is so
important that they will risk everything.

Paul Lamar   Dump the Dems


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