Subject: America today
From: rotaryeng
Date: 11/13/2012, 5:01 AM
To: AAAArotaryeng


 OK guys, its bad I admit it. We were banking on a change that didn't
 happen. I was told years ago that there are 2 kinds of people- radiators
 and drains. Radiators give off, drains suck it up. It seems that the number
 of drains are outnumbering the radiators.

 The good news is that with so many drains we aren't likely to drown anytime
 soon. The bad news is that us radiators seem to be on our own.

 Most of you know that I used to own and run a big company with way too
 close to 100 employees, and I did so starting at 19. Many of us here are
 wired just that way. So, now comes the beginning of a solution to our
 problems- sort of. We can all agree that Government will not be helping us
 be able to fly our planes. Gas is going up, fees are likely going up,
 places that I have landed try to send me tax bills, etc. (no kidding). So
 its up to us to make it happen.

 I was on a board this morning before church reading several derogatory
 statements about using alternative engines in our planes. It seems that
 people just dont understand what we are trying to do, and are not willing
 to do any work ourselves. This mentality parallels the issues with Linux.
 While I use Linux for almost all of my work, many people are not willing to
 try to learn it or see why its better than Windows. So, as far as our
 planes goes, here is my plan:

 With the help of Paul and everyone else on this board, I want to try to
 develop first a working installation that can be mirrored to other planes
 that are being built. When someone asks for a FWF we might be able to say
 "no, but we can show you exactly how others have done it and what you will
 need".

 To do this I think we will need a few things- like an adapter plate of
 sorts that will allow the Rotary to replace the Lycoming with the
 dyna-focal mount. Those things are everywhere, and used on many smaller
 planes. This gives the builder the option of swapping out the engine easily
 to or from the Lycoming if he decides to.

  Next, a standard EFI system with mechanical backup. I know from experience
 that the stock Mazda coils will fire from the CAS without an EFI at
 anything over 800 rpm. So given this, with a mechanical fuel delivery
 system we have non-electrical redundancy. I like that. It can be as simple
 as a throttle actuated regulator tied to the standard mixture control like
 we are used to. If the computer goes out, you have a simple leanable
 manuable system. Pilots will not accept our alternative engine without a
 backup system.

 I have heard that each installation is so different that we all are
 reinventing the wheel with each installation- maybe so but not necessary.
 Tom's Lancair is close enough to mine that I should be able to use much of
 his data to speed up my installation. But without a flight to Texas, its
 not readily available to me. Tracy's RV10 20b is functional and simple- but
 the installation details are not out there for the world to see. We need to
 change this.

 I just bought a PSRU with several spare parts. I now have enough materials
 and info to possibly have more input into the design of the more simple
 PSRU unit.

 If we are to get more people flying, we need to reduce the costs of not
 only flying but of keeping an airplane in the air. This starts with an
 affordable airplane from the outset. Affordable airframe, engine and
 avionics. I spoke to a man yesterday at the EAA fly in- he is building an
 RV-7. His budget is 30K for airframe, 40K for engine, and 30K or more for
 avionics. He estimates that it will take him 5 years to save the money.
 What if he could spend 30K on the airframe, 15 on the engine and 5 on the
 electronics? Half price I am thinking.

 I will order a new tablet in the next day or so- it is a cheap unit but it
 has an Intel processor. There is a version of Linux out for ARM processors,
 but I am hoping the current lightweight versions that are already ported to
 an Intel processor will work with the Intel based tablet. The tablet will
 run windows7, which means it isn't an ARM version. Lets hope- this will
 allow our linux programs to work natively on the tablet.

 Also, I am still working on the Arduino board that is ported to Android-
 the plan is this: For a few hundred dollars we can have a good android
 tablet (or 2) on our panels. These tablets will display engine info etc.
 from the EFI board, and allow us to tune our engines from the tablet touch
 screen too. Also, we can run apps such as the Garmin pilot on both units
 giving a backup. There are gyroscopic boards and chips out now that will
 allow us to interface the G reading boards like are in our phones to mag
 chips for direction and gyro chips to confirm our spatial position. The end
 results will be affordable, redundant electronic guidance. And in my case,
 behind the tablets will be the usual compliment of steam gauges including 2
 VORs. I really like redundancy.

 I have said for a long, long time that if you spend all your life chasing a
 dollar, you wont ever catch it. And if you wait for someone else to help
 you, you will be waiting a long time. Its up to us to make our own destiny.
 Nowadays, I give my time and talents to local organizations that need it, I
 help who I can and all without money. We have enough to live on, and I can
 devote time and talent to other things. I am willing to be the front so to
 speak and try to see what I can do but I will need your help to make it
 happen.

 What do you guys think? Can we all work together to make flying cheaper for
 everybody? Can we make flying in the US Open Source?

 Kevin Alderman

Kevin,  When I was designing my rotor housings I REALLY wanted to have a
Lycoming bolt pattern available on the accessory end housing. The problem
is that the Lycoming pattern whether it is  conical or dynafocal (1,two, or
type three)  is smaller than the shape of the front side housing. Trying to
add threaded bosses to the side housing tends to interfere with things iike
the location of tension bolts and  the hollow dowel pins.  Even if the
bolt pattern could be accommodated, the distance back from the prop flange
is different on the rotary and the opposed piston
engines which would require  a different cowling  and a means of
controlling the Cg of the firewall forward weight.
        The  mounting of the engine on the back housing requires the motor
core to counteract prop torque with the tension bolts which it does not do
in the automotive application. This is why I support the use of Jeff's
mounting plate which is substituted for the one supplied with the redrive
from Tracy Crook. This plate picks up the torque load at the shortest load
path and provides the mounting points close to the Cg of the drive train.
     Regarding the PSRU, it doesn't get much simpler than the Real World
Solutions product manufactured by Tracy Crook.  Some people question the
weight of the housing casting and believe it is too robust, however it has
a well proven flight record and  seems proven to handle bending,
gyroscopic, and thrust loads both in a tractor or pusher installation,
While finite element analysis might tutn up some weight reduction potential
of possibly 3 pounds it hardly seems worth the risk of guessing what
combined loads to use in the simulation.  The connection of the splined
input shaft of the PSRU to the engine E-shaft has shown some maintenance
issues with the Mazda flex plate having fatigue cracking. Dave Leonard has
pioneered the use of a billet aluminum racing flywheel as a replacement for
the flex plate and by all accounts is happy with the change
     As far as a redundant fuel system goes, I think an adjustable needle
valve on the fuel pump line with a solenoid  blocking valve  downstream
feeding into the intake plenum through an agricultural or oil furnace spray
nozzle would the fan doing something usefull provided either of the
electric fuel pumps is operational.

george grimes


This is the way Mistral did it. Lycoming mounts are 10 times as expensive
as Barry mounts.

http://www.rotaryeng.net/motor.html

I have lots of stuff on Tracy's redrive including most dimension.
Ask away and start a separate thread.

http://www.rotaryeng.net/psrus.html

Paul Lamar
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