Subject: Windows 8 is crap
From: AAA-rotaryeng
Date: 1/31/2013, 7:57 AM
To: AAA-rotaryeng

I bought a new notebook and it had windows 8 on it
if you buy it it will piss you off big time
microshit wants to totally control you.

I was so pissed I thought of suing Fry's.

Fortunately I will take the drive out and replace
it with a blank drive and install Mint.

Paul Lamar


Your plan may not work. Look up Uefi to see why. One site is:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Unified_Extensible_Firmware___Interface
   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface>


There many web site with more info. You may be able to find a work
around. If you can't I suggest
buying a older computer which has win xp or 7 on it. These ones allow
other operating systems to be installed. IF you do not want win xp or 7
just install a version of linux over the win version and wipe it off. If
you want to keep win on the computer you have 2 options.

1. the ubuntu versions and mint versions installer allow side by side
installations. This assumes enough disk space to partition for both.  20
to 30 gigs for windows at a minimum and 20 gigs for linux. I have been
making 3 linux partitions, 10 gig swap(could beting smaller), 10 gig /
partition and a 20gig or larger /home partition. This allows me to
upgrade the operating system and formatting the / partition and not
formatting the /home partition. Your data on the /home partition will be
saved, however the links to installed programs will be lost but can be
reestablished by reloading the programs via package manager.

2. If you have a computer which has a processor set up for
virtualization ( I think core2 dual on up through i3,i5,i7 have the
hardware). Install virtualbox and install win in the virtualbox. You
will notice very little decrease in speed. There are a few tricks
necessary to get the Usb woirking in virtualbox. IF you go this way,
contact me and I will walk you through it. Or load Teamviewer- it is
free both in linux and win and i can take over your computer remotely
and set it up.

I have a i7 desktop at home with such a setup and both linux mint and
win are very fast. With win you still face the virus/malware problem and
need to load software for this problem.
This is just a quick over view of the problem. Much more detail is
available via google search.

chris smale


I have done it so far on an Asus K53 and  a Lenova G580 note book computers.
It is tricky but I can't reveal my secrets as I am starting a
biz to install mint in place of Windows 8. $75 cash :)

Anybody want to buy a 320 Gig 2.5" HD with Windows 8 on it ?

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BTW there are now 63,159 software packages for Mint.

Paul Lamar

   I know you don't want to hear this, but my answer is Mac.  I can make my Mac work as a Windows device (I don't), but
   those with PCs can't do the reverse and run the Mac OS.

   The biggest issue with my Mac is the constant updating of the Office Suite of programs.  I virtually never have to
   install upgrades to the Mac software.

   Someday, I will follow Paul into Linus heaven.  I can get that OS for peanuts.  lol
   jd

   You are there but you don't know it. Mac is Linux.


   Paul Lamar

jd, not necessarily or universally true. Older mac OS required SCSI control
system (small computer system interface) rather than PCI (personal computer
interface) and also required SCSI hard drives.  I used SONY hardware.  The
new MAC OS will run on a PCI based computer with SATA (serial ATA) hardware.
They will not run on an AMD processor such as a quad core phenom AMD used
in high end computers.

Also AMD chipsets wont work and they are graphics
card specific.  For instance Nvidia cards are unsupported.  Cad software
won't run well if at all on ATI cards so there is some software that will
become incompatible as a dual boot system with one monitor.  There is a
short list of mainboards which will work mostly Gegabite.


Intel i2 and
above processors are Mac OS compatible but if you want it to actually work
i5 and i7 should be used.  You can install snow leopard OS 10.8 or version
10.6 and upgrade to 10.8 on the Mac apps store.  Then for a small fee like
$29 you can upgrade that to Lion and then to mountain lion.  The lion series
is not available on a stand alone disk and the upgrade to it must be
downloaded on a Mac computer.  There are two reasons I didn't do a tripple
boot on my last computer build.

First is the install agreement clearly
states that it is for a computer built by Mac and it is copyrite
infringement to install or distribute the software.  The second reason is
that most software I use was written for windows x86 based machines and
ported to Mac at a later date.

The less development hours on the Mac
version shows in the number of patches it downloads as updates.  Mac is
still trying to sell name recognition established when the PCI based
computers had a 40 pin cable and SCSI had 80 then 120 and later 180 pins.

The speed came from the higher number of conductors in parallel and use of
packet writing which is now used on everything for longer data strings per
address.If you are looking for speed AMD processors and Linux will get you
there.  I use windows by choice because the type of software I need isn't
yet written for Linux.  I do have the AC3D modeling and EMC-2 CAM software
which run on Linux but need to find a Linux FEA program


george grimes


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