Subject: Visit with Tracy Crook
From: rotary engine
Date: 3/20/2013, 4:30 PM
To: AAA-rotaryeng


 Alex and I visited Tracy today and the subject of muffler came up.
 Here is some info on our coax muffler.

 The best muffler for a rotary is 3 to 8 feet long about 4 to 5
 inches in diameter.  That gives the lowest aero drag for a given
 silencing.  Lowest frontal area.  Mufflers work by the exhaust
 gases rubbing on the metal surface losing kinetic energy to skin
 friction and losing heat to the metal surfaces.  The cooler the
 gases in a pipe the lower the gas speed.  When high speed gas
 exits a pipe there is a sudden expansion that causes the noise.
 The idea here is to cool the gases before they get to the end of
 the inner pipe.

 The inner tube is best done in .045 Inconnel but there is a
 trade off with thickness.  If you make the inner tube 2 inches
 in diameter and use 321 SS make it .065 thick with a bunch of
 holes drilled in it.  The outer tube can be .030" thick 321 SS
 as it will always run cooler.  Also make the front of the
 muffler look like this.

 Don't drill any holes for the first 8 to 10 inches. The slip
 stream will blow cooling air down between the coaxial tubes.  At
 the back end make the inner tube 6 inches shorter than the outer
 tube.  That will act as an ejector to draw cooling air between
 the two tubes.  Patent applied for:)

 A 2 inch diameter SS tube .065 thick 72 inches long will weigh
 about 8.8 pounds.

 A 2 inch diameter SS tube .065 thick 72 inches long will weigh
 about 8.8 pounds.

 A 4 inch diameter SS tube .030 thick 72 inches long will weigh
 about 7.50 pounds.

 A 2.5 inch inner tube and a 5 and 1/2 inch outer tube may give a
 little less back pressure for a weight trade off.

 Tracy, if you get this reply with "OK".

 Paul Lamar

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 Here is the sound file.

 BTW Tracy there is a period after .com on your email address on your web
 site. If somebody cuts and paste that address to send an email some
 email programs will barf on that.

 tracy@rotaryaviation.com.
 and
 support@rotaryaviation.com.

 Paul Lamar

                        
Hi: very nice video and comments. May I have read that mufflers also work bybreaking the waves, and are tuned to specific frequencies and resonating frequencies?My brother Carlos, who is an aeronautical engineer with a long time affection to2-stroke engines, sounds to me as having bought some books on mufflers andexhaust pipes for 2-Stroke engines long ago, when the dirty old oddities that are today 2-Stroke engines were still in production.

There was also a pair of SAE Papers on the effect of intake and exhaust piping and on numerical simulations, both by Mr. Ming-June Hsieh et al, the first entitled:"The intake and exhaust pipe effect on a Rotary Engine Performance", it failedto be available for bought at sae.org, because the authors didn' get the Visa on timefor attending the meeting, and as papers were not presented in the meeting, it were notavailable.

The documents about the Suzuki RE-5 said that a low pressure, low resistance exhaust system is good for RCEs, but you're the ones who do have the actual experience.

Do you have actual or real world data on the Rx-8 Renesis an author said in this forum was going to test with a Peripheral Intake Port, while preserving the Side Exhaust Ports?Paul Lamar's opinion on this seemed very positive, and many people in the RCE car world would like knowing more about this combination, peripheral intake-side exhaust.
Thanks, regards, salut +
   Jose G A   Madrid, Spain

We optimize the intake for 7500 RPM takeoff.

Here is a you tube video with about 82,000 hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKJ00JsnS8A


Paul Lamar


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