Subject: Robo welder is rotating
From: rotaryeng
Date: 3/26/2013, 4:59 PM
To: AAA-rotaryeng


    

    

    

    


 Robo welder is rotating. Not welding yet but soon.
 It amazes me that tiny motor and gear box is all you need.

 Here is a movie to prove it.

 Just because something you are building is small does not mean it does
 not take a lot of time.

 I tried the rubber tubing coupler but it did no rotate smoothly.
 It would wind up and then would release.
 This is a special coupling nut with a 4-40 set screw.

 Paul Lamar


 I am getting a degree in robo welder design.

 I have discovered several things. Don't use caster wheels that
 are the least bit soft. It is best to make your own rollers out of metal.

 The grounding of the tube resting on the stop doesn't work very well.
 I found some 4 gage wire in  an automobile hi fi audio shop that is
 very flexible. A zillion tiny copper wires.
 I stripped the insulation off but not entirely necessary.
 The insulation is soft and flexible as well.
 About 2 bucks a foot.


 I will attach that to the tube with
 a hose clamp and wrap several turns around the tube to be unwrapped
 as the tube turns and is welded.

 I found a 110 Volt synchronous motor at MaMaster Carr that rotates
 at exactly 1 RPM no matter what. It has enough torque to twist your
 wrist off.

 It takes the speed of welding out of the equation. All you need set
 is the welding current and the distance of the tungsten to the metal.
 The gas flow can be near the bottom of the recommended scale to
 conserver that expensive consumable.

 Paul Lamar


 A bit of advice from someone who has thousands of hours experience with
 welding wire in a physicly dynamic environment. First, properly size the
 wire for the current load. #2 for 100A give or take depending on the
 insulation(bumping 1 or 2 guages here won't kill you). You always want to
 size on the high side because.. it's expensive to replace. Welding wire has
 many fine conductors, composed of alloys that resist fatigue and heat
 crystalizing. Welding wire, is quite properly more expensive because it
 handles abuse and motion.
 If your robowelder only needs 360/380 degrees of rotation, get enough
 length so you can perform the rotation without too much twist per inch of
 wire, but
 always turn it back to a start index.
 C. Smith



 tig does not use wire. Filler rod sometimes but not needed here.
 This is basically an over lapped joint.
 Here is a picture of the part that is welded on to the end of the
 4130 .049" wall one inch OD tube. The turned down part goes inside the
 end of the tube.

 Paul Lamar

 I believe C.Smith is talking about the ground wire. Being an electrical
 engineer, he is right, #2 copper is the right size for 100 amps.

 H.Lunt

 Thanks.

 BTW everybody please set your editors to send plain text to me.

 html does strange things to email programs.

 We are getting email from different OS's XP, Wind 7, Wind 8
 etc., etc.. Mac, cell phones etc., etc., etc. Apparently they send
 messages in different ways. Some in html.

 Paul Lamar

 I'll go buy another 3 feet of the 4 gage and double up on it.


 Paul Lamar


Paul,  I am  concerned that the friction drive rotating the tubing will
have problems trying to unwind your ground wire. I used a carbon block on
the verticle table welder shaft end  and a set collar on the horizontal
welder.  Actually I had several different set collars for different shaft
sizes. A carbon brush rode on the top of the set collar. I used the #2
welding cable clamped to the end of the shaft on larger parts in the 80 to
300 pound range but not for light stuff., just too stiff and didn't rotate
smoothly or stopped rotating all together.
            george


No problem. That auto stereo amp stuff is very flexible.

It is working like a charm.

Here is the current (pardon the pun) configuration.

My brother just sent some picture of the weld.

Paul Lamar

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