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On May 22, 2013, at 14:10, "rotaryeng" <
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Paul,
Do you have any current information on Mistral's certification
program? The latest date on their website says they expected
certification of the G300 in 2009....
Josh
They appear to be out of biz.
Paul Lamar --
No, they are not out of bizz.
They presented their engines ar Aerofrederichhafen
They have two 300hp engines, in airplane version and in helicopter
version and they have two 200hp engines, airplane and helico
They are on the experimental market. Certified version are on the
back burner for the time. Also frozen is the JETA engines, waiting
for funding.
With the limited funds they have, they struggle to survive and get
additional funding. It is their priority.
This info comes from a reliable source in Switzerland, who is one of
the founders of Mistral. Philippe CHENEVIER
Did you go to Aero this year?
Are they selling parts? Gear boxes? Exhaust parts? Intake manifolds?
Seems that is an excellent way of making money. Also the customers
are willing to test the parts for free.
Do you have an email address for them?
If there is no way to contact them... in effect... they are out of
biz.
Paul Lamar
There is a market in the US for the Mistral gear box constant speed
prop version in particular.
Philippe , do you know if they are still getting subsidies from the
Swiss government? Having received that money are they not allowed to
move the manufacturing out of Switzerland?
It would make economic sense to move the company to the US and the
manufacturing to China like everybody else.
Who is in charge of the company now?
Paul Lamar
Guys,
Chatted with someone at mistral last week.... They told me they won't
sell just the parts.
It appears the want the whole package or nothing.
Not the greatest policy if you ask me. They have developed a great
product and the PSRU is a work of art. But not trying to make some
money with the work they have done makes no sense.
Plan to go to Geneva in June to check out their operation
Will Failing
That is insane! Why pay them $30,000 for a engine that is not as good
as a brand new $8,000 (retail) Mazda RX8 engine.
Let me know when they get a real businessman in charge :)
In the meantime forget Mistral.
Paul Lamar
Actually, if memory serves Mistral's retail pricing was pushing $60k before they went belly up......okay, maybe belly side ways.....edging to up.
I have the Mistral intake and super pleased to have licked onto having proper timing to get it. (Even though the fuel rail design seems to have been part of the reason for my engine shut down last month at about 800 feet over the airport)
It seems Mistral has some talented engineers without solid business sense (or maybe just socialist business sense....perhaps one in the same). To have a seemingly known market niche in am already limited market and dismiss such does not seem to be a good business route.
Chris Barber
Houston
Velocity N17010
The experiment aviation market is very fortunate and lucky to have a low cost
mass produced engine that is more durable than a $30,000 aircraft piston
engine. They just don't know it yet.
The biz model that makes sense is buy the low cost engine from Mazda
and buy the parts to turn it into an aircraft engine from some one else.
Paul Lamar
Chris,
I sent you photos of my Mistral intake & fuel rail a while back.I recall your engine loss report but can't remember reading about the Mistral fuel rail as a factor in the episode. How did it contribute to the stoppage and what remedial steps did you take to resolve the problem with it?
Thanks,
Jack Hilditch
Jack,
I don't recall seeing your intake pix but I would like to.
Chris
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