Subject: The turbo compound ignition system is working.
From: rotaryeng
Date: 9/27/2013, 12:06 AM
To: AAA-rotaryeng


 I cut the voltage to 420 from 560 because I have not received the 650 Volt 1 mF
 capacitors yet. This is about 1000 RPM. Watch the movie and you can see
 the blue flashes in the middle of the screen. The circuit is basically the same
 as the outboard/Vespa circuit but the high voltage power supply works off
 a 110 volt wall socket instead of a charging coil. I am using the latest
 hi tech solid state switch called an IGBT instead of an SCR shown in the
 outboard schematic.


   IGBT Insulated-gate bipolar transistor is a three-terminal power semiconductor device
 primarily forming an electronic switch and in newer devices is noted for combining
 high efficiency and fast switching. It will dump up to 50 amps through the coil primary
 winding in less than a microsecond. The coil is basically used as a pulse transformer
 so it runs much cooler than when used in  an inductive mode. It also fires immediately so
 there is no dwell time needed. In this set up I am using a stock 2nd gen Mazda coil
 with out the igniter.

 The 1 mF 450 Volt cap is charging through a 1.5 K resistor hence the visible charging curve
 you see on the O-scope. This high value resistor  may not work at the higher RPM's but
 prevents the IGBT from shorting the high voltage supply. I plan to experiment with a choke instead.


 Paul Lamar


    Congratulations on the spark!

    Henry


    Thanks henry. What do you think of putting a diode across the coil to aglow the coil to ring?


    Paul Lamar



Paul,

I assume that you are using a circuit similar to the Mariner Ignition. I also assume that you are thinking about back emf, creating a high voltage spike at the end of the discharge cycle. I would say that you can add a diode to prevent high voltage on the cap, but I don't think you have too much of a problem as capacitors can discharge most of its energy rather quickly. Once the energy is discharged, and used up immediately as a spark on the secondary side, the remaining voltage, and current, if any, from the capacitor should be limited, and it can be dissipated through the primary winding to the ground rather quickly. Especially when you notice that there is not much heat building up on the coil.

So my two cents: The ringing is most likely a minor issue, but it does not hurt to add a diode there.

Henry

Yes on the Mariner circuit. Here it is. IGBT instead of SCR.

Paul Lamar
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