Subject: Rotec Ellison carbs
From: rotaryeng
Date: 9/29/2013, 9:05 PM
To: AAA-rotaryeng



  It's a side port (4 inlet 3 exhaust) I am putting it in as it is
  (factory assembled) for now, I may p-port it at a later stage. I will be
  using a rotec throttle body (don't want a computer)  had one on my other
  EZ, boy was it economical.
  Also I was wondering if you had a circuit diagram for a CDI that will be
  triggered by a couple of hall effect sensors ?
           Cheers Chris in NZ


    The stock manifold is rather high but it will probably fit in an EZ.

  What I have on my list of things to do is build a 12 volt high voltage
  supply for capacitor discharge ignition systems using a new chip by
  Linear Tech.

  The LTĀ®3751 is a high input voltage capable flyback controller
  designed to rapidly charge a large capacitor to a
  user-adjustable high target voltage set by the transformer
  turns ratio and three external resistors.

  The actual CD circuit is the same as the outboard/Vespa and the TC 3 rotor
  CD systems.

  That Rotec "throttle body" is a copy of the American Ellison
  carb :) It will work great when you get it sorted out. See notaposa.pdf


  Paul Lamar




  Chris,
  I am using the Rotec on my 12A based single rotor. I agree with you that it
  is a great item. One thing I found out as an issue is the fact that it does
  not operate properly when installed an cross flow position and the slide
  throttle horizontal. Rotec never gave me an answer to that finding.
  I also am using a tuned intake, which required a relocation of the
  reference
  pressure probe.
  This was the best thing I have tested short of EFI .
  FWIW.


  Richard Sohn
  N2071U

http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html
<http://www.fairpoint.net/%7Eres12/home.html>

Richard,
     Are you using the  TBI-40-3 ?
John Gibbons


Richard,
    Thanks for the tip about the T/B. I will be installing it the same as you by the looks of it, with the slide in the vertical plane, I am using the 48-4/5. Why did you need to move the reference pressure probe, was it for a physical reason ?
        Cheers Chris.

Chris,

When you add an intake tube to the outside of the TBI, you have to try maintaining the 40mm diameter all the way to the slide throttle, so you will not lose a lot of the tuning effect by changing the cross section.
I made me an insert eliminating the built in intake trumpet, and with this.
the pressure pick up is put out of the air stream. This is only the physical problem. The other issue is, if you pick up the pressure in the TBI at the 40mm diameter, the static pressure is getting low enough at WOT to totally close the pressure regulator.  You need to take advantage of the dynamic pressure increase at WOT for maintaining a rich mixture.
It took me about a year to get all that right, including the orientation problem.

Keep asking when you get there, I will be glad to help.


Richard Sohn
N2071U

http://www.fairpoint.net/~res12/home.html


Thanks Richard,
   No doubt I will be needing some help, I had no problem with my Ellison in my other LongEZ, I hope this will be the same.
   Cheers Chris.

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