Subject: Aircraft/Car Trade-in?
From: rotaryeng
Date: 11/23/2013, 10:21 PM
To: AAA-rotaryeng


 Terrafugia is out of date already!

 http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2013/11/20/google-flying-cars-zee-aero/#18174101=3


 Interesting,

 Marc


 It will go nowhere on battery power :)
 What would work is a diesel electric locomotive type transmission.

 IE: Wankel engine powered generator with electric motor powered fans.

 A bit too heavy probably.

 Paul Lamar

     A Spanish engineer, Carlos Matilla, and their company, propose a
    similar, but less complex product, the 'Helikar', they claim having
learned
    from the mistakes by Moller and Urban Aeronautics, but don't describe
    these 'mistakes' (link below is in Spanish language)

http://www.elmundo.es/cronica/2013/11/10/527e904a63fd3d393a8b4576.html

      Hope you like it!. Salut

           Jose Gros-Aymerich
           E-28033 Madrid, Spain



I think whoever dreamed this up should get a good book about helicopters,
Johnson's would be good, and look up the term "disc loading"

Steve Brazil


Two ways to get low disk loading. Lots of small fans or one large one.
Add all of the disk areas. Multiple small fans work and in some ways
they are simpler. Especially electric driven as you can speed up the
aft fans to move forward. Also blade torque is canceled as the fans
on one side rotate in a different direction  than the fans on the other side.
It looks strange but it is a very viable design except for the weight of the
motors, generator and ICE.  The Wankel ICE,  due to the high power to
weight ratio, would help greatly.

Paul Lamar

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