Subject: Tig welding
From: rotaryeng
Date: 4/28/2014, 4:07 PM
To: AAA-rotaryeng


   Last night in my sleep I too came up with what I thought was a
   brilliant invention....  Patent pending.

   Having realized a couple of weeks ago that my OA gas-welding failed
   to meet my stringent QC standards, a friend suggested I invest in a
   TIG welder.  After viewing tons of Youtube videos online
   demonstrating the ease of TIG welding I bit-the-bullet and ordered a
   machine. The TIG welder arrived a couple of days ago, but it is so
   far not what I was expecting.

   My problem(s) are that I cannot quite see the puddle; from behind my
     face-mask there appears to be very little difference between an
   optimum puddle on 4130 tubing and a big hole; I have not yet figured
   out how to keep track of where the far end of the filler-rod is
   located when I'm hiding behind inside a helmet, etc ...

   All my problems appear to be related to seeing what is going on;
   things don't appear at all like they do on Youtube.

   So my brilliant invention of the wee hours of this morning was to
   adapt a video camera to serve as my real-time video camera. Using
   digital filtering I could using a camera to monitor my welding
   environment. The digital filtering software could use some sort of
   non-linear filtering algorithm to show the work area in somewhat
   normal illumination, but also display the TIG torch and associated
   arc/puddle in vivid detail. It could be software adjusted to meet
   the exact melting temperatures of whatever alloy I was using.

   This morning I had the wind taken out of my sails ...

   http://visiblewelding.com/


   http://www.visiblewelding.com/Videos/Alum.TIG.closeup.avi <http://www.visiblewelding.com/Videos/Alum.TIG.closeup.avi>


   RBerglund

   Not to worry Robin. The key is getting the right face shield
   transparency (darkness).

   The other thing you can do is increase the ambient light on the work
   with a 200 watt spot light.  This allows you to see more of the work
   before you strike a spark and reduces the contrast after you strike
   a spark believe or not.


   Also get yourself some magnifying reading glasses and get your face
   closer to the weld.

   Hang in there it is worth it.


   Paul Lamar

   Invest in a high quality auto-darkening welders helmet, and an
   appropriate diopter lens for your eyes. The harbor freight auto dark
   helmet is not up to TIG standards and is a waste of money (fine for
   just MIG and stick). It is well worth the investment, when you think
   that your welding is what will keep your airplane from falling apart.
   Buy a couple of boxes of scrap 4130 tubing (Aircraft spruce
   occasionally sells them for around $20 for a 10 or 20lb box) If your
   machine is also AC you can get a box of aluminum to practice on
   also. Practice, practice, practice. Clean, Clean, Clean your joints
   prior to welding. Take notes of your settings and which ones work.
   Set the current limit with as little overhead to start your puddle as
   is practicable. Once the puddle forms, you will typically back off
   on the current, as heat builds up in the metal. Use some preheat to
   prevent warping. Weld in still air to prevent cracking, do not
   quench!

   C. Smith


   I'm building a fuselage for a Bearhawk Patrol...have much of it
   tack-welded with OA.  I enrolled in a night-class in welding decades ago
   and have always managed to do an OK job whenever I needed the skill
   since that time.  I can still do an OK job when the job isn't important,
   but as soon as I start working on something that will keep my Bearhawk
   off the ground, I start goofing up. I will save my engine-mount for
   last :)

   My biggest complaint with OA is that when one must come back to
   previously tacked and/or welded locations'clusters the steel gets
   increasingly oxidized in a very large area, even inches from the weld. I
   seriously doubt that 4130 is capable of maintaining its weld-strength
   when everything is all crusty from being reheated multiple times. I have
   several torch heads, smallest is a Meco

   My real reason for buying the TIG is that I have a friend who once said
   he'd be willing to help me out, and he claims to be a TIG only guy. Of
   course I want to  do some of it myself, which is why I've been
   practicing a bit the past couple of days.  This morning I thought I was
   doing better, but I was completely surprised when I took the helmet off
   to look at my last bead; there was a nice long neat slot in the tubing
   where I thought the bead had formed.

   So far I've been practicing on old scraps of EMT. I just cut up some old
   salvaged EMT into little pieces, soaked them in a little muriatic acid
   for a few minutes to remove the zink, and they look just like new pieces
   of 4130.  From my amateur perspective, cleaned EMT seems to weld much
   like 4130.  I do have one of HarborFreight's BEST auto-dimming helmets
   (an oxymoron, I know), and it does seem to darken properly, except its
   response is nowhere near the 1/125,000 of a second they claim. About 1/2
   second would be more like it.  I just close my eyes until I hear the arc
   starting.
   The time delay might be temperature related...  Its about 30 degrees out
   in the shop right now, in fact there is a still a big snowbank in front
   of the shop door and the forecast is for another 2" snowfall tonight.

   Thank you ALL for the TIG tips

   RBerglund

   It is a vision problem. Get a spotlight.

   Get a better welding helmet.


   Paul Lamar

As someone who has had burned retinas twice, once from a small Crack in the lower part of the lens below my field of vision and another time from a defective auto darkening helmet, my advice is to go to a professional welding shop and spend as much as you need to and get the best helmet you think you can't afford. How much are your eyes worth. 20 years later I still have visible scar tissue floating around my eyeballs. Really, I have specs that float in and out of my field of vision. To me it looks kind of like a bug or 5 flying around my head and sometimes I swat at a bug that isn't there. Mostly a nuisance, still have 20/20 vision, but I can see them and so can the eye doctor. And, burned eyes hurt.

Kevin Alderman

Kevin Alderman
President Aviation and Avionics Services Inc.



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