Subject: NEW GEARBOX REDUCTION IDEA Visit with Jean/MILO
From: rotaryeng
Date: 9/17/2014, 11:14 AM
To: AA-1-Me



Paul As per today all major cars are built with front drive and almost built with a wheel bearing hub integrated with double ball bearing who act as trust in both sides and as been proof since lot of years..

I found one who can be use to match the prop stubs by machining those hole stubs between the original wheel stubs and remove the existing stubs and enlarge them to remove excess weight'.

The wheel flange have to be reduce in diameter to standard prop shaft size flange.

The attaché triangular flange can be machined to .200" thickness to reduce weight and all these parts are soft enough to be machined.

The hub can be hold on pressure fit and with 3 long bolts from the inside aluminum casing and the head seal with orings to hold the oil pressure inside the gears chamber, or 3 long treaded studs.

The aluminum casing can be machined from solid bar or get it cast from foundry, it can also be added some ribs for more stiffeness

You can find the wheel hub bearing in Ebay at $40.00 and up depends on quality.

The both shaft are about $80.00 from Slauson Transmission Parts,all other parts as sun gear ,planet.ring gear,front ring,drum forward ,bearings less then $200 from Slauson few years ago

I am sending you several sketch showing how to built this gear box and it might be a few more pounds of Tracy one , much cheaper and fast to built with almost available parts.

JEAN PRUDHOMME

Jean also sent some picture of his rotary powered scale Piaggio Avanti he is working on. Perhaps by mistake :) Interesting nose gear.

BTW Jean set your epson scanner to save as jpg instead of pdf. Then you can attach the jpg's to email.

Paul Lamar


Paul


I just finish to extend my garage with a total length of 50 ft and all my tool are in place,i will have enough space to built the fuselage plug. I am still building my original gearbox with internal passage for the constant speed and install a stator. I came up with the hub idea for someone want to built his own cheap and fast to built. I do have all steel and aluminum parts for the gear box Include the last 2 Velocity I built from Google.com and enter N274JP and clic Prudhomme



JEAN PRUDHOMME


We were in south Florida so we visited Jean Prudhomme.

Jean is a very prolific and talented aircraft builder. He has been working on airplanes since the late 60's. So far he as built nine.
Many Velocities.

Here are some pictures of gear box parts he intends to use on his 3/4 scale Piaggio Avanti.

Paul Lamar


Jean, I assume P-1160044 JPG is a photo of an auto transmission 7A and a reduction housing. We are interested in the reduction housing for a 3.i7 reduction housing. Do you have a dimensioned sketch of the reduction housing? And can the housing be purchased separate before machining?

Milo


Hi Milo

You can buy the housing from Speedway.com, is a special design but it have 2 side a left and a right which one of the is longer and is the one I do have.

It's already machined for 85 od mm bearing at the inside housing.
and along the inside is machined to 3.000" dia.

For my design it is just perfect for 45mm x 85x 19 mm ball bearing sealed in the front and open in the back.

You can use a constant speed propeller by drilling hole in middle of the shaft,

If you machine a prop shaft in one pce you can drill bigger hole and lighter the weight, I will build one with the wheel bearing housing which I take out lot of weight

Later I will send it to Mark Williams Enterprise to have one to be built with my dimensions after all adjustment been done.

After cleanup the wheel bearing housing a 45mm id bearing fit perfectly without machining just add pressure fit steel collar from Mark Williams or any Auto Part suppliers.

You can buy the wheel bearing housing from Ebay at $40.00 and keep only the flange and a bit of machining. Bearing from Ebay about
$25.00 plus each

My unit will be a couple of pounds more then Tracy but I am including a stator and also will us a constant speed MT propeller with feather for the twin

I send a hand sketch to give you and idea by using the wheel bearing housing.

JEAN PRUDHOMME


Milo
I am sending you some photos showing transmission parts shaft matching the other pce we need there are from Slauson less then $80 plus shipping.
I use those as reference and the shaft for the sungear can be use by grinding tooths until it match the inside part of the with a press fit and retain by round pins as Paul suggest.
By matting the sungear outside diameter and the inside dia shaft it will be stronger in shear and machine the geared wheel off


JEAN PRUDHOMME

jean Please Turn Bold B off in you email program.

Paul Lamar

Jean
I may have miss led you.
I am an amateur at this game.
We are interested in using an automatic Xmission bell housing like you show in your photo's with a nose piece as shown for a 3.17 setup and different from you we wish to salvage the use of a prop shaft of an IO 540 Lycoming engine that we have in hand that has 2 flanges to work with and for taking up thrust loads in particular and dispense with the necessity of screwing the hub on the shaft for experimental purposes.
Your extensive back ground has proven a big help and with your permission we will tag along, right now everything is up in the air but with guys like you and paul we are making good progress.
I am fascinated with the number combinations possible using standard automotive components, we like aircraft pieces, especially hubs and etc., to test with just to get data.

Milo

Let me clarify this a bit more. Milo is using recycled Lycoming crank shafts that
are typically cracked in the first journal fillet area. The case is split and then bolted
together just like a Lycoming crank case. This accommodates a stock prop gov and
CS prop.


Paul Lamar

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